12月16日出版的《Sunday Herald Sun》报道了位于墨尔本东南Bayside的Cheltenham区的一栋普通住宅18年来的价位变化。
这栋房产位于6 Munro Avenue，Cheltenham，占地574平方米，与墨尔本市中心直线距离17公里。位于Bayside的Cheltenham区中心地带，离火车站、Southland Shopping Centre都很近。
3房双位卫浴双车库，卖房前重新大装修过。开价$690,000 Plus 上上个周末以$805,000元成交。
这栋普通的住宅1989年4月份，以$165,000元买入，在1997年以$180,000元换手，8年价格仅上升1.5万元；
但再过了仅仅10年的时间，2007年12月1日以$805,000元成交。
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CHELTENHAM
An Entertaining Extraordinaire
Sold Saturday 01-Dec-07 $805,000
6 MUNRO AVENUE CHELTENHAM
Brilliantly renovated, this contemporary 3 bedroom 2 bathroom family residence puts the pizzazz back into your entertaining. Styled with warm chocolates and polished boards, this exciting sensation enjoys decked porch, stylish foyer, 3 big bedrooms (BIRs/WIR), spacious sitting room (wood heater), impressive central kitchen with top of the range Euro s/steel appliances & stone benchtops, formal dining area and vast open plan entertaining with bi-fold doors to covered alfresco living (ceiling fan). Finished with ducted heating, a water tank, large garage & auto door to carport, this Bayside beauty is moments to shops, parks, kinder and bus in this sought after peaceful pocket.
Property Summary:
Category: House
Bedrooms: 3
Bathrooms: 2
Garage: Double
Land: 574.00sqm (approx)
Close to: Melbourne: 17km (direct line)
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18年前，工资4刀每小时。
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12月15日星期六墨尔本出版的《Herald Sun》也谈到一个东区Blackburn的房子，在1990年由Christine和Adrian Robertson夫妇以$300,000元买下。时间过了整整17年，12月8日上周末拍卖，起拍价：890K，最高竞拍买家以$1,111,000元拍卖成交。
截止2007年9月底，Blackburn的房产中间价位已越过700k的大关，过去一年房价涨幅高达50.5％。
Blackburn
* Property Type: House
* Bedrooms: 4
* Bathrooms: 3
* Car Spaces: 2 Lock Up Garage
2A Boongarry Avenue
Prestigious Bellbird Position
Prestigious Bellbird Position
opening Bid 890K
What distinguishes this splendid contemporary home is its enviable position & park-like setting in one of Blackburns' most highly sought after locations. Nestled in a quiet country feel cul-de sac, this comfortable, immaculately presented 2 storey home offers 3 living areas, 4 bedrooms, parents retreat with private study/nursery overlooking tree top views plus a sunny balcony, 3 bathrooms, sauna, secluded courtyard, heated pool & preferred northerly aspect.
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[ 本帖最后由 villa 于 2007-12-16 19:42 编辑 ]
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这个话题很有意思,90年代早期和中期,澳洲房子真的很affordable诶 -- 希望没有插队
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没问题。谢谢AS加精，这可是我的换靴帖，呵呵。
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过年了,恭喜villa升金靴!
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墨尔本地区2006.9～2007.9一年来房价涨幅最大的前20个区排名：
Top 20 growth suburbs
[ 本帖最后由 villa 于 2007-12-18 08:55 编辑 ]
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House17年涨年3.6倍。
存银行17年至少也能涨 2.5 倍，按6%年息算......
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去掉装修后的收益率应该和存银行有的拼。
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收益率差不多，但是你要看本金多少，买房子自己只是出10-20%，存定期的话可是100%使自己的钱。
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ding
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今天投票贴太热闹,好贴沉的太快
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所以难说你买了房子，不会赶上不涨的那10年。
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赶不上这个10年，就赶下一个10年啦
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俺家门口啊，买不起房了呀......
还是排队等派分的现实哈。
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请参考12月15日墨尔本《先锋太阳报》（Herald Sun）周六版发表的下面这篇文章：
截至2007年9月底，墨尔本一些象Malvern，Canterbury，Hawthorn East，Kew等蓝筹区域一年来的房价涨幅几乎翻番。相应的，一些middle ring甚至outer suburbs也因Inner ring房价急涨而被迫外移的家庭不断涌入而使得房市畅旺。整个大墨尔本地区，房产中间价位总体上升了13％，已经创出$431,000元的历史最高记录。
根据Housing Industry Association的统计，截止今年九月，墨尔本整体房价的上升令有房贷家庭的平均每月向银行的房贷偿付额达到$2529元，这对成千上万要买房的中等收入家庭造成很大影响，这些家庭甚至都要被排除在房产市场之外了（
According to the Housing Industry Association, the boom took Melbourne's average monthly mortgage repayment to $2529 in September, essentially pricing out thousands of average-income families.
But Australians for Affordable Housing spokesman David Imber said average families had been priced out by too much to wait for the situation to correct itself.）
Soar points for new home buyers
December 15, 2007 12:00am Article from: Herald Sun
BOOM times, McMansions, rising interest rates and housing affordability were the barbecue stoppers of the year, with heartache for first-home buyers making headlines.
Melbourne's property market saw prices nearly double in blue-ribbon suburbs.
In many middle and outer suburbs, prices also boomed as priced-out families flocked from the inner ring.
Across Melbourne, house prices soared 13 per cent in the year to September, taking it to its highest-ever median of $431,000.
According to the Housing Industry Association, the boom took Melbourne's average monthly mortgage repayment to $2529 in September, essentially pricing out thousands of average-income families.
Then there was more pain -- interest rates rose in August and November.
The last rise, during the federal election campaign, took the figure to an 11-year high, and pundits are tipping another rise or two to come.
But while Melbourne's big year has shaken the mortgage belt, it's also made plenty of millionaires.
This year saw the number of million-dollar-median suburbs in Melbourne jump from just four last year -- Toorak, Brighton, Canterbury and Armadale -- to 15 in the September quarter.
Melbourne saw its highest-ever house price in June, when Good Guys whitegoods boss Andrew Muir came knocking on celebrity Steve Vizard's Toorak mansion, to offer him $17.5 million for the place.
The Orrong Rd sale lost its record title in August, when art dealer Rod Menzies spent $18 million to buy Stonington Mansion in Malvern.
But the biggest winner was the State Government, which is expected to rake in a whopping $3.5 billion from stamp duty, up $700 million from last year.
Real Estate Institute of Victoria chief Enzo Raimondo said this year was great for home owners, and not just in the leafy suburbs.
"Some of the areas where we've seen strong demand and growth have been inner-western and northern suburbs, like Yarraville, Northcote and Coburg," Mr Raimondo said.
"As the inner suburbs have climbed, people have turned to those next suburbs out, where prices were around or just above the median mark.
"A bit further out, suburbs that house hunters formerly wouldn't have thought of, like Blackburn and Box Hill, have been a hit due to their transport connections."
Other big jumps were Frankston, up 19 per cent from $295,000; Rowville, up 21 per cent to $428,000; and Reservoir, climbing 24 per cent to $387,000.
Mr Raimondo said Sunshine and Forest Hill had also been big surprise packages, with prices jumping more than 30 per cent.
He said those who managed to get a foothold in the market this year should be celebrating.
This is the final weekend of the traditional spring/summer selling period, with more than 1000 auctions listed.
But Mr Raimondo said those still house hunting into the new year shouldn't panic.
"Especially if there's movement in interest rates, things could slow down quite a bit," he said.
But Australians for Affordable Housing spokesman David Imber said average families had been priced out by too much to wait for the situation to correct itself.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun ... 926433-2862,00.html
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OMG
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V版的帖子信息量大, 个个都很精彩!
GX穿上金靴, 偶今天也没分了, 明儿一定补上. 偶也排队进入等派分的行列吧.
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为什么DOWNCASTER不在其中呢
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可能是因为Doncaster在2006年6～9月这个季度涨得太快，已经涨过一波了，记得当时有一则新闻是该季度Doncaster以16.1％的升幅高踞墨尔本所有suburb房价涨幅之首。
单单那3个月的时间，Doncaster房产中间价就急涨了16.1％，从45万上升到52万，已经上了一个台阶：
从2006年9月起至2007年9月，Doncaster又上涨到$626,500元，升幅为20.5％，不过，我在18楼的这张涨幅最大20名排行榜的最后一名涨幅都已是38.3％，所以Doncaster就不在其中了。。。。。
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Villa 班竹勤勤恳恳，令人敬佩。
楼主提到的这两处House１８年来价位的变化的背后，其实反应的是这样一个事实，从长期看，买房子仅仅起到保值的作用，更本谈不上增值（House的装修和维护费用也是不菲的）。
以Blackburn那栋房子为例，１８年前，３０万（相当于人民币约１８０万，大家回想一下，在当时的国内可是笔超级巨款，９０年证券营业部大户室的门槛是１０万，本人来自江苏，相信是有一定的代表意义的），１８年后，１１１万（相当于约７００万人民币，现在国内５００万进不了大户室是常有的事，甚至１０００万都进不了也不是新闻），呵呵。
投资房产与投资股票有时颇为相似，三年不长，一长三年，进入的时机很重要，这要看个人的眼光了（当然买房自住另当别论，尽量避免峰位买进）。
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Thanks!
你可能忘了房产投资的资金杠杆效应。那对夫妇在17年前买下Blackburn这栋房子，可能仅用$6万元的首期，剩下的24万相信已经完全还完，如今$111万卖出收到的是现金。
感觉你把国内大户室的入市门槛和澳洲的地产投资相比实在有些牵强，国内的发展日新月异，许多方面又不尽规范，我认为这两者之间的可比性有限。
所以，我个人总是喜欢进行纵向的比较，请参考：
Glen Waverley校区10个月来的三场拍卖
住家附近一栋房子：开价400K+，成交512K
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个人同意楼上V版的说法。
不过习惯做股票的朋友很多是很看重现金流的，投资房子周期长。
我认识一澳洲老移民（10多年前来的），手上有价值几百万的澳洲和香港股票，一直在进进出出，但是一家人还是在租房，没有自主和投资房，因为割舍不下股票的收益和带来的乐趣。
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谢谢“朱爸爸”，呵呵。。
“投资房子周期长”，确实如此，不过并不是每一个人都象patrick的这位老移民朋友那样有时间和精力和能力善于做澳洲和港股，并且整日短线进进出出的，所以房地产投资长远来说，对一般的“懒人”而言，还是不失为一种比较稳妥的方法。
自住房就更不用说了。。。
具体的计算和讨论实在是太多了，请参考那个计算贴：
买房还是租房？算一算！
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嗯，我也是这么想的。
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今天分回来了, 赶紧兑现诺言给V版补上!!
都说投资房产好, 可是现在房价这么高, 普通人还真玩不转.....
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恩,同意ls的. 对first home buyer来说, 如果想买个3bedroom的房子,如果稍微想周围的环境好一点, 没个40万的预算就不要想. 投资房就更遥远了, 现在房租是没法弥补银行还贷了, 只有寄希望资本增殖. 普通老百姓, 哪有那么多资金一下都投到不动产啊, 万一手紧, 变现起来还真不容易, 更何况如果房子没涨或涨的少, 多出的那点钱也就是给银行的利息钱, 等于白折腾一场.
看来2月房子,越看越迷茫了, 到底该买个什么样的啊. 大house 还是unit啊.
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希望现在开始另一个冷淡的10年
现在没钱买house也不着急了
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