请问,如果老婆孩子已入籍,孩子在澳洲读书,老婆大部分时间在澳洲陪孩子,老公在国内工作挣钱,那老公属澳洲的税务居民吗,要申请澳洲的税号吗?我在ATO的网站上研究了半天,结论是老公归属澳洲的税务居民,我的结论对吗?
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还是选择非税务居民把
不然高工资还要在澳洲交税。。。如果你老公年薪不超过13万人民币
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这个问题很经典,我也想知道到底算税务居民还是非税务居民。
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谢谢楼上的回复,可是我可以自己选择吗?如果他转钱给我们ATO会要他交税吗?如果算税务居民,超过13万才要补税?他没超过
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他给你转钱是交过税的钱不用再交了。不需要担心
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看错了,以为是13万澳币,13万rmb是超过了
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If the husband is Permanent Resident under immigration law he would be Resident for Tax Purposes under the domicile test.
If he is not PR he is still likely to be a resident under ordinary concept for that his family is living here permanently. You should also look at other facts e.g. whether they have bought a house in Australia, Whether they have significant investments here, How often he comes back etc.
The Australian tax system is self- assess this means at times you are faced with alternatives in terms of reporting but you should always try to do the right thing or you may get in trouble in an audit.
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顶l s专业
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你老公长期在国内?还是只是一段时间?还有在国内你老公是不是和他的父母住?这些都可以是argue的points,楼主要给出信息,从而全面判断,因为就现有信息,你老公在澳洲有family tie,这个点很强,很有可能算resident for tax purpose,所以,还是要给出全面信息阿
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谢谢各位专业人士的意见,想给你们加分的,但我好像还不能加分。
还有个问题,如果申报为税务居民,他就要每年在澳洲报税吗?那不是很麻烦?
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不麻烦不麻烦。。退税季节到坛子里大吼一声。。
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我觉得这样的话,楼主老公税务上是算海外居民,也就是非税务居民的意思吧?
我刚刚在看ATO里面的例子,但我没有权限贴URL链接,所以其中那段我贴出来啊:
Gerhardt - a new migrant who hasn't quite left his old country
Facts
Gerhardt migrated from Sweden to Australia with his family.
He had to return to Sweden to see out a performance contract that had two years to go.
He departed one month after arriving and settling the family here.
In Sweden he stayed in the family house that they had been living in before moving to Australia.
He also retained the family car so that he could travel around for his work in Sweden.
He used to play tennis with a local club in Sweden and, on his return, resumed his association with the club.
Although he intends to join his family in Australia for good at the end of his contract, he is leaving his options open in case he is able to secure another contract.
In the nine months that he has been back in Sweden, he has only visited his family in Australia once.
Outcome: why is Gerhardt considered a foreign resident?
From the above facts, Gerhardt is a foreign resident for income tax purposes.
The following table outlines the reasons why the four residency tests were not satisfied.
Test
This test is not satisfied because...
Residency - the resides test
although he has a residential home in Australia and his family resides here, these factors are not significant enough
he is not physically present in Australia for a considerable period of the income year, and
he intended to return to Sweden after a short stay in Australia for the purpose of settling his family.
Residency - the domicile test
he has not conclusively demonstrated that his domicile of choice is in Australia
Gerhardt's circumstances indicate that he has a permanent place of abode in Sweden
his intention of joining his family for good after completion of his contract is also not conclusive, as his actions indicate that his absence from Australia is indefinite, and
his single visit to Australia in the nine months also adds weight to the conclusion drawn.
Residency - the 183 day test
he was in Australia for only one month.
Residency - the superannuation test
this does not apply in Gerhardt's circumstances.
我觉得这样的话,楼主老公税务上是算海外居民,也就是非税务居民的意思吧?请指点。
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楼上看得真仔细,是ATO自己给的例子吗?可是听了到的意见基本上就是老婆孩子定居在澳洲(自己是PR),就有family tie, 就被认定为税务居民。
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The Reside Test is the primary test,
'...to dwell permanently, or for a considerable time, to have one's settled or usual abode, to live, in or at a particular place...'
In this case your husband does not reside in Australia.
Family tie is only a factor to be considered, it is not itself a test, and far from a conclusive factor.
I have to agree with 清风漫, The Gerhardt example is almost identical to your husband's situation as you described, he's not a tax resident. That example is on ATO's website.
Gerhardt - a new migrant who hasn't quite left his old country
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This is a very good example! but again beware the decision is based on individual circumstances.
A key fact to look out for in this case is the taxpayer left Australia only one month after his arrival. His intention had always been going back overseas and he had a long term commitment overseas (2-year employment contract)
The case also does not mention the Australian side of the story.
These would affect the outcome of your judgment significantly. e.g. if the husband had stayed with the family in Australia for a longer period of time or he had bought a house in Australia. Your judgment will be totally different from this case.
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简单的个人理解,只要是PR,在澳洲有账户,有房产(名字),不管在海外住多久(超过183天),都是澳洲税务居民,就像论坛里的名言———全宇宙的钱都要到澳村上税!
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有人举过例子的,如果全家都不在澳洲住,哪怕有房子账户,也不是澳洲税务居民。但是lz这种情况,算的。
政策真nc, lz这样情况,如果报分居呢?男的不算澳洲税务居民了吧?女的还能多拿补贴。。。。。。。反正中国又不承认分居。存理论讨论哦。
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有理有理。唉。
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以前的 163 现在移民监都做满了。换pr了。。老婆孩子房子在澳洲,。账户在澳洲。
老公在国内继续公司/ 做生意。。很多tax agent做老公的时候直接当 non residency做的。。
现在问题都来了。。国内公司 。/生意 是完全不告诉 agent的。。即不申报。。
有谨慎的,申请了 private ruling,拿到 non residency certificate,ato的打击即将展开。。。
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看来争议大大的有,政府为了敛财,要打海外收入的注意了。
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他平时多久回澳洲一次, 我觉得是
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转贴http://news.xkb.com.cn/guoji/2012/1206/239512.html
想做“非税务居民”么?
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加拿大人想移民海外又不想继续纳税?这个可以有,但不是那么简单。
加拿大人如果移民海外,要不要继续向加拿大政府纳税?
首先必须指出的是,是否继续纳税和是否加入其他国家国籍并无关联,因为第一,加拿大是明确承认公民有权拥有多个国籍的国家,一个加拿大公民移居海外并加入外籍,只要不通过官方渠道明确声明放弃加拿大籍,对加拿大政府而言,他就仍然是加拿大公民,而事实上真正“把事做这么绝”的几乎没有;第二,加拿大联邦政府是否向一个自然人征税,看的并非这个人的国籍,而是这个人的经济活动是否与加拿大有关联,如果有,即便从未加入过加拿大国籍,而只是“加拿大永久居民”(即俗称的“枫叶卡”持有者),且并不常住加拿大,他也一样逃不脱向加拿大政府纳税的义务。
如果一名加拿大公民真的要移居海外,那么他有两种选择。
第一种选择,是照常纳税,每年填写税单并报税,且不但要填写、申报自己在加拿大所拥有的财产和所获得的收入,也要照样填写自己在海外拥有的财产和获得的收入,如果您所居住的新国家和加拿大并未签署“避免双重征税协定”,那么对不起,您就只好分别向两国缴纳同一份收入和财产的税款了。
第二种选择,是申请做加拿大的“非税务居民”。所谓“非税务居民”,即保留随时回到加拿大居住的资格,但因满足某些条件而合法豁免向加拿大纳税义务的居民。
如前所述,任何有权合法在加拿大永久居住的人,只要和加拿大存在经济活动的关联,就自动获得向加拿大的纳税义务,那么反过来,只要切断一切和加拿大的经济活动联系,这个纳税义务也就自然而然地不复存在了。
既然已经离开加拿大,自然应该放弃在加拿大的工作,也就不能再获得工资等收入,这个很容易理解和做到;养老金、租金、股息、红利、退休津贴等收入仍可继续获得,且这部分收入仍要向加拿大报税(但不影响“非税务居民”身份),这也不是大问题。要做“非税务居民”,最大的难题有三个。
首先,您不能在加拿大拥有不动产。如果拥有,您可以选择出租,但租约中不得有“退出条款”,也就是说这个租客不能想走就走,因为这个出租屋只要一天不处于被出租状态,您就又变成税务居民了;您也可以选择过户给成年子女或其他成年直系亲属,但必须经法律公证,确保他们不需要您抚养、赡养,否则您将会因“与加拿大的某个人仍保留经济活动联系”而被认定为税务居民。您还要小心,不要在房子里保留自己的房间,否则一切白搭。当然,最干脆的办法是把房子卖了拉倒。
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其次,您不能在加拿大保留任何需要抚养、赡养的直系亲属,如果您移居海外,而直系亲属仍居留加拿大,您不但要签署经过公证的、不承担与这些人间任何抚养与被抚养、赡养与被赡养义务的法律文书,今后您与他们之间还不能有任何“通财之谊”,否则随时可能被重新认定为税务居民。另外,您的妻子和未成年子女不论是否由您承担抚养费,都被默认为“存在经济活动联系”,因此您要走却已婚的话,请务必全家一起走。
第三,离开加拿大又不想纳税,您就必须放弃一些作为加拿大纳税人的权利,如您必须注销加拿大驾照,放弃一切在加拿大银行开设的账户,放弃一切加拿大境内使用的信用卡等等。
除了前面提到的那些可能性(如发生财务关联),比较容易犯的错,包括因为受雇于某个公司而长期居住海外,期满后以为海外居住期间可以免税——这种人几乎百分之百会被当作税务居民,以前没交的税回国后不但要补缴,而且还会被罚款。
如果您偶尔回加拿大住一住,玩一玩,是不妨的,但千万数着日子——一旦一年住在加拿大的总日子超过183天,对不起,您又成为光荣的加拿大纳税人了。
当然,有人抱侥幸心理,认为天高皇帝远,加拿大税务机关未必查得到,但一旦被查到,可是要受到法律严惩的,加拿大税务机关重点盯的就是这路人。
陶短房
加拿大温哥华
自由撰稿人
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大体上和澳洲 没差很多啊 。。不过ato还没有展开对 这类人的审查。。
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mark
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看了楼上各位的讨论,最终还是没有定论呀?到目前为止有人因为这种情况(妻儿在澳,澳洲有房产,本人在国内工作)被ATO算作税务居民从而追查吗?
现在假定男方算税务居民,那么会面临什么问题呢?他在国内的收入都在国内交过税了;澳洲这边会再收一次?如果不会,那么男方是否税务居民区别在哪里呢?是不是仅仅是一个需要报税,一个不需要呢?
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What is private rulling and non residency certificate?
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上帖说得很清楚了。
我知道很多中国人都不明白澳洲税务局怎么看这种事,几百万澳元汇进汇出,早晚要出大事
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追诉期5年,ATO知道有大批中国人现在担心中国的钱不安全要转移到海外,现在政府缺钱,先让你们转,等差不多了,口袋一扎,开始审查,钱就跑不了了。
现在严查,你们不转进來怎么办?
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