澳洲养老金(Age Pension) 10 年居住要求(Age pension 已获批,更新了养老金计算器2020年数据)

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2020 年 Update:

不少人要求我 update Pension 的计算方法,我花了一些时间做了一个计算器,仅供参考。

Age Pension 计算器 2020-5.xlsx (22.54 KB, 下载次数: 3033)

上面的计算器是用2020年1月的数据,如果以后数据有变动,你们可以在里面自己改,公式会用你们的新数据来计算。

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2019 年 Update:

转眼间这个帖子居然发了5年多了,前两个星期楼主岳父拿到PR满十年了,楼主在满十年的当天就帮他申请了age pension,就是登录到 Centrelink 的帐户上 submit claim,过程不算复杂。两个星期后没有任何问题就批了 。

岳父在拿到PR后的第四年的时候因为有事情回国了10个月,第六年的时候回国了4个月。其他每年或隔一年回国一般都是少于6周。这些都没有被视为中断,也没有被扣除,而且也没有要求我们解释离境那么久的原因。

所以我认为网传的回国不能超过6周是不正确的。审批者还是主要看你是否把澳洲作为主要居住地。


但是,也有网友说他的朋友被严格扣除了每次回国的时间(看这里):


我觉得很没有道理,我认为这个审批者业务水平不过关,如果是我的话可能会去争论一下,不过也许没有用。请大家自己判断吧。


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请注意,本贴所说的养老金是指 Age Pension, 是在你65岁以后(这个岁数有变化,具体请查看 human services 的网站)政府评估了你的收入和资产后所给你的补贴。

请不要与 Super (superannuation) 混淆了, Super 是你在工作的时候你的雇主帮你交的或者你自己交的,等累积到你退休了以后可以取出来用。


看英文困难的网友们,请住下看,后面有中文的解释。



Department of Human Services 网站上写的是:

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/ ... trelink/age-pension

You also need to have been an Australian resident for a continuous period of at least 10 years, or for a number of periods that total more than ten years, with one of the periods being at least five years, unless you:

   
  •     are a refugee or former refugee, or
  •     were getting Partner Allowance, Widow Allowance or Widow B Pension immediately before turning Age Pension age, or
  •     are a woman whose partner died while you were both Australian residents, and you have been an Australian resident for two years immediately before claiming Age Pension



对 Australian Resident 的解释是:

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/ ... idence-descriptions

An Australian resident is a person who is living in Australia and is either:

    an Australian citizen
    a permanent visa holder, or
    a 'protected' Special Category Visa (SCV) holder


然后对 Living in Australia 的解释是:

You are living in Australia if Australia is your usual place of residence. That is, Australia is where you make your home.

When we are deciding whether you are living in Australia we will look at:

        the nature of your accommodation, and
        the nature and extent of your family relationships in Australia, and
        the nature and extent of your employment, business or financial ties with Australia, and
        the frequency and duration of your travel outside Australia, and
        any other matter we think is relevant


也就是说你必须:
1、保持你的澳大利亚居民( Australian Resident) 身份10年不间断,或者
2、你的澳大利亚居民( Australian Resident)身份有间断, 但是所有的片段加起来有10年以上,而且其中的一个片断必须有5年以上。例如:你保持居民( Australian Resident)身份3年,然后因某种原因断掉了,后来又保持了居民( Australian Resident)身份5年,然后又断掉了,然后又保持了居民( Australian Resident)身份2年,这样就符合了10年的要求,即 3年 + 5年 + 2年 = 10年,并且其中有一段是5年。

照他们对Living in Australia的解释,保持Australian Resident 身份并不一定要一直呆在 Australia,我做了一些研究, 查到了一些有用的信息,原来还是靠审批的人来综合判断。大家慢慢看吧:

http://guidesacts.fahcsia.gov.au ... guide-3.1.1.10.html

(Department of Human Services 对于这个问题没有详细的解释,但是 Department of Social Services 管理的 Guides to Social Policy Law 网站上却解释得非常清楚。这些是原文,后面有我翻译的内容。)

When making a determination about whether a person is 'residing' - in other words 'living' - in Australia, the key point is to establish that Australia is the person's settled or usual place of abode - i.e. that the person makes Australia his or her home. In general, it is not possible for a person to be residing in more than one country at the same time. In most cases, the balance of a person's ties will weigh more heavily in favour of one country than another.

The decision as to whether a person is residing in Australia must be based on the balance of all the available evidence. No single factor should be taken to be conclusive on its own and some factors will usually provide a greater indication than others, however in the majority of cases the most weight should be given to the time spent in Australia. In general, it is also expected that a person who resides in Australia will be able to demonstrate strong ties to Australia under a number of different criteria listed in SSAct section 7(3).

1. Frequency & duration of the person's travel outside Australia

A person does not need to be continuously present in a country in order to be residing there. A person holidaying or working temporarily overseas does not necessarily cease to reside in Australia while they are away.

It is necessary to find the reason for being overseas and to look closely at the pattern and duration of time spent outside Australia in order to ascertain whether a person continues to reside in Australia. For Australian residence to be maintained during an absence, a person must demonstrate continued physical ties to Australia, the absence must be for a short duration, there must be a purpose for the absence and there must be a proposed end date for the absence.

Taken in isolation, a 3 year continuous absence would be regarded as an upper limit to still being considered residing in Australia, unless there are special circumstances delaying a return. When looking at the pattern and duration of time spent outside Australia, if a person regularly spends more than 6 months a year outside Australia, then their residence in Australia is questionable.

The purpose of an overseas absence may indicate whether a person continues to reside in Australia. The reason should be consistent with the intended length of the absence. For example, a person working on an 18 month overseas contract posting would still be considered to reside in Australia as long as they have demonstrated ongoing physical ties to Australia and a commitment to return to Australia at the end of the posting.

It is not uncommon for a person to remain overseas for a lengthy period of time but state that they intend to return to Australia to live at some uncertain, future date. In general, when a person states that they are leaving Australia temporarily with the intention of returning to Australia, the person's 'intent' becomes less of a factor as the length of the absence increases. A person's physical ties with a country will normally take precedence over their intentions when lengthy periods of time are involved.

A person who has spent the majority of their time overseas in the last few years and who returns to Australia to claim a benefit will not necessarily be eligible from the day they return to Australia. The person must demonstrate that their physical ties with Australia have been re-established, or are in the process of being established and that they intend to reside again in Australia.


Example 1: Derek is single, aged 56, and has spent the last 2 years in Thailand as he prefers the climate and cost of living. He initially went for a short holiday and when he came back he rented out his furnished property in Australia on an indefinite basis and took on a long term lease of an apartment in Thailand. He is not employed. He keeps in contact with extended family by phone and has a return trip booked to Australia for medical treatment. He has to renew his Thai visa every year and does not consider himself to be a resident of Thailand because he is not eligible for a permanent visa there. He plans to return to Australia one day and for this reason has not sold his house.


Derek's argument that he does not have a permanent visa to stay in Thailand does not override the fact that he spends the majority of his time living in Thailand. Based on the duration of his absence and the fact that his plans to return to live in Australia are vague, at this point in time he is considered to be residing in Thailand.

例一:

德某56岁单身,在过去2年里一直呆在泰国,他把他在澳大利亚的房子无限期的出租了出去,然后在泰国签了一个长期的租约租了一个房子居住。他经常和澳洲的亲戚打电话联系,也订了机票回澳就医。他持有泰国临时签证,每年都要续签。他认为自己应该仍然保持澳洲居民身份因为他总有一天会回澳且没有卖掉他的房子。

审批官认为德某虽然没有泰国的永久签证但是这并不能大过他大部份时间都住在泰国这一事实,而且他回澳的计划很不明确,所以认定他在这一时间段是居住在泰国,而不是在澳洲,所以他的澳洲居民身份在这里就断了。



Example 2: John and Belinda are both retired and have rented out their home in Australia for 2 years while they are in Europe. Their vehicle is on loan to John's brother in Australia who is looking after their furniture. They have purchased a townhouse in Perugia in Italy for their daughter who will be studying at a nearby university for 4 years and they see it as a good investment. They plan to have an extended holiday in Europe after their daughter has settled into her first year of study. They have a firm plan to return to Australia at the end of the 2 years as John expects to be doing contract work for his previous employer. Due to the fact that their plans in Europe are for a defined period and a short term purpose and there is other supporting evidence, they are considered to still be residing in Australia.

例二:

有一对夫妇他们都已退休,他们去欧洲住了2年,在这2年期,他们把房子出租,租期为2年,他们的车借给了他的弟弟,弟弟帮他们照看他们的家具。他们在意大利为他们的女儿买了一个房子,因为女儿在附近要读4年的大学,而且他们认为这是一个不错的投资。女儿学习了一年以后,他们决定去欧洲渡2年长假。他们有明确的计划在2年后回澳因为 John 将要为他以前的雇主做一些合同工作。

审批官认为因为他们有明确的计划只在欧洲住2年,2 年后会回澳,加上一些其他的辅助证据,他们被认为仍然保持澳大利亚居民身份。





懒得看英文或者看不懂英文的朋友们,我简单概括一下,如果我的理解有偏差请大家指出:

申请养老金(Age Pension)的居住要求:

  • 你必须要保持澳大利亚居民身份 (Australian Resident)连续10年,或者
  • 你的澳大利亚居民身份 (Australian Resident)有间断,但是这些片断加起来要超过10年,而且其中一段必须有5年那么长,除非你符合下面的条件:
    •     你是(或曾经是)难民,或者
    •     你在达到领养老金年龄之前正在领取 Partner Allowance, Widow Allowance 或者 Widow B Pension, 或者
    •     你是一名女性,而且你的配偶已经去世,在他去世的时候你们俩都必须是Australian Resident (澳大利亚居民), 并且在你申请养老金之日的前两年你必须是 Australian Resident (澳大利亚居民)。 Australian Resident (澳大利亚居民)就是指你要有永居签证(或者你是公民)并且以澳大利亚为主要居住地。


所谓“保持澳大利亚居民身份 (Australian Resident)”,并不是指你一定要在澳洲境内,而是指你是以澳洲作为你的居住(常住)地,就是你的家在澳洲。

审批者会根据以下同方面判定你是否保持澳大利亚居民身份 (Australian Resident):

1. 你是否持有相应的永久签证(永居签证,澳大利亚公民等)
2. 你在澳(和在中国)所住的房子类型的比较(比如说是合租的,还是买的,还是跟家人一起住,还是住旅馆等等)
3. 你的家庭关系(特别是直系亲属)在哪个国家,你和他们之间的关系(联系)怎么样;
4. 你的职业,生意,资产跟澳大利亚的联系;
5. 你离开澳大利亚的频率和时间长度;
6. 其他审批者认为有关的事项。

关于第5条“你离开澳大利亚的频率和时间长度”,文中唯一提到的就是最高限度是3年,也就是说如果你离澳3年以上,你就很难再说你是以澳洲作为你的常住地。另外一种就是如果你定期的或者有规律性的(regularly)离澳6个月以上,审批者也会倾向于认为你不是以澳洲作为你的常住地。 其他的情况就要靠具体分析了,但总的来说,如果你离澳有明确的目的(比如说度假,甚至工作)并且有明确的计划什么时候回澳,你在澳洲这边所做的安排明显表明你还要回来,比如你的房子还留着,虽然租出去了,但是租约是有明确结束日期而不是无限期的,你的车子还留着等等,就可以认为你还是澳大利亚居民(Australian Resident)。当然你离开的越久,就越难认定你还是否澳大利亚居民(Australian Resident),但总可以争取的。有人电话问过 Centrelink, Centrelink 的工作人员说的跟我写的有区别,但是我一向认为Centrelink 的工作人员有时候自己对政策都不是很清楚,不同的人说的都不一样。所以请大家自己判断吧。

有人问到底能拿多少养老金?算起来还有点麻烦,金额总在变,而且具体还要看个人的收入和资金状况,我下面只是提供一个大概的数字,而且是2014年6月的数据。具体请看:
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/age-pension

https://www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/age-pension/how-much-you-can-get

另外,你持有的房产也会有影响(自住房不算在内):
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/assets/#a15
We include the value of any real estate that’s not your principal home.

更新了计算器,在上面。




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福利啊

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不懂英语  ,等于瞎子

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谢谢搂主的分享。
我还没有看链接的网页,但是按照搂主的摘要,对于居住的要求有了更清晰的了解。父母必须是持有10年的永居身份。其中的5年是连续居住的,连续居住的定义就是必须符合4点。其中对于离境的解释,就是如果连续离开6个月或是一年,可以认为并不是以澳洲作为长居地,但是也有例外,就是如第二个例子。我想如我父母,除了子女,直系的其他亲属,如兄弟姐妹都在国内,那么每年回去探望,而且回去的时间不超过3个月,我想这是有争取的空间的。

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关于这个话题最有营养的帖子。

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好贴!关注

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澳洲政策变化多端

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楼主下功夫了,感谢分享

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我加了一些中文,你看看吧。

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既然这个“连续”没有非常明确的定义,看来也是要看审批者的主观判断,只要是能解释得通回国的偶然性和必要性,而且每次回国务必控制在6个月以内越短越好,就应该视为仍然是澳洲居民。但是“保持澳洲居民身份”,跟“如何计算累计时间”应该是两回事?也就是说虽然偶尔的合理的短期离境不会让审批者认为你脱离了和澳洲的紧密联系,但离境的时间还是要扣除掉的吧?

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根据上面的条款,似乎只要你还是 Australian Resident 就算你离镜也不用扣除。因为10年是你保持  Australian Resident 10年,而不是在澳大利亚境内10年。

他是说 You need to have been an Australian resident for a continuous period of at least 10 years
而不是 You need to be in Australia for a continuous period of at least 10 years

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照这样看的确如此,这是个造福大家都讨论贴呀,感谢楼主


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照这样看的确如此,这是个造福大家都讨论贴呀,感谢楼主


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不明觉厉

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根据政府实际情况 政府可以随时更改对政策的解释 谁都会把话的很灵活 主要看政府是否想付钱

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想知询下楼主:除了居住时间10年,还要符合什么条件?

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我觉得有连续 10年的 AU taxable income , 报税, 交税,应该可以了。 作为居民交了税是最好的 au resident 的证明。

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好贴,收藏了


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请看这里:

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/ ... trelink/age-pension

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跪求中文翻译

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mark

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我不是翻译了吗?

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感谢分享

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总结,没有非常明确的定义,看签证官心情

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thanks for the info

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领养老金也要签证官批呵

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有一种说法就是居住要有一段是连续五年以上,这五年是一点都不能离开澳洲,不知道这种说法是否正确?

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不正确
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