宝宝已经白天猫睡了将近4个星期,40min就醒简直能当闹钟,经过不懈的努力,尝试了各种办法,小家伙终于不猫了,真哈皮加鸡冻
感谢,感谢好多牛人总结的经验,感谢很多麻麻提到的baby whisperer, 最终就是这书里的方法起了作用。
偶基本就是按照这个来训练的:
http://www.babywhispererforums.c ... msg378926#msg378926
才用这个方法两天啊,第一天宝宝就20min的时候小哭两声自己resettle总共睡了一个小时,第二天居然自己一声没吭睡到下次feeding time,一整天都基本没哭,看见人就笑
舍不得用save our sleep里让孩子哭的麻麻们可以试试
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meya 发表于 2013-4-7 14:48
楼主能简单介绍下吗?那个帖子太长,不知道重点在哪?
核心理念是建立孩子的安全感。方法是放下抱起法加嘘拍法,而不是save our sleep里让孩子一直哭。当然大前提是孩子已经形成了吃玩睡的模式。
具体操作的时候有很多细节要注意,这就是那个长帖子说的东西。举例来说:
有的妈妈说我用这个方法离开房间后孩子就哭,来回要弄好多次,一两个小时。原因是当孩子完全calm down之后,很多妈妈就离开了,但实际上还需要继续嘘拍7-10分钟
还有比方说使用这个方法要至少坚持一个星期,这之间不能有间隔,不管晚上睡觉还是白天的每次小睡都要坚持,即使有一天没有这样做,那么所有之前的努力就归零了。
这个长帖子本身就是很多妈妈使用这些方法时遇到的各种各样的问题,然后baby whisperer的作者出来一一解答的,所以可操作性很强,推荐如果使用这些方法时遇到问题时来看看。
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meya 发表于 2013-4-7 20:03
啥是抱起法和拍嘘法?什么时候关门走人?
简单来说,嘘拍法就是一边拍宝宝,一边嘴里发出shh...的声音。
放下抱起法就是宝宝哭得激烈的时候抱起来嘘拍,情绪平静下来之后放下拍。如果放下后再哭得厉害,就再抱起来,平静后放回去。
我平常直接用iphone里的白噪音软件代替的嘘。但是感觉宝宝情绪激动的时候用嘴嘘更有效,反正时间短也不累。
一般是等宝宝躺下完全平静呼吸平缓规律后继续嘘拍7-10分钟关门走人,这时候宝宝可能睡着也可能没睡着。
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This is how you do it.....
We don't pickup/putdown with babies under 3 months old because it's too overstimulating. Instead we completely calm the baby with pat/shush.
Swaddle the baby snugly and make sure the room is as dark as you can get it. Lay the baby on his side so you have access to the back. You can use a wedge or a rolled up towel to prop him up.
Patting and shushing is done with a firm pat in the center of the back (like a tick-tock rhythm) and a long, repeated shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh past (not into) the ear. Loudly, like a faucet. Not fast.
Generally you do the patting/shushing in the crib. Though if he cries, you can pick him up, patting and shushing him over your shoulder, until he's completely calm. Then lay him down and keep patting and shushing. (Put a hand on his chest, or if the room isn't very dark, shield his eyes from visual stimulation.) Try it in the crib but if he wont settle you can pick him up. Keep patting and shushing in the crib for 7 - 10 minutes after he's completely settled and zoning out. Eventually stop shushing. If he cries, shush again while patting and pick up if necessary. Eventually you will get to the point where you are patting and shushing, and he's zoning out and settled in the crib. Then you slow down the patting and shushing, then stop shushing, and keep patting until baby goes to sleep. Stay with him until he's in stage three - deeper into sleep, totally let go, no eye movements. Past the "jolt." You may or may not need to be patting still at this point. Some babies will need the patting, some will need the hand on the chest or just your presence. This is the age where they still need you to guide them into sleep, and this is how you do it without accidental parenting.
The key is not to stop just because baby has calmed down, keep it up. And stay with him, don't leave, until he's melted into the crib! icon_smile.gif
And if 40 - 45 minutes have passed without sleep, feed him and try again. He'll be hungry by then.
**For more detailed information about implementing shush-pat, see The Babywhisperer Solves All Your Problems by Tracy Hogg and Melinda Blau, Chapter 5: Teaching Babies How to Sleep, the section entitled, "Variable #2: Inadequate Sleep Ritual."
**See also, Secrets of the Babywhisperer: How to Calm, Connect, and Communicate with Your Baby by Tracy Hogg and Melinda Blau, Chapter 6, the sectiton entitled, "When You Miss the Window."
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恭喜恭喜~~~
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恭喜。。。
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恭喜,mark!
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gx
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恭喜恭喜恭喜。
其实孩子的作息习惯跟大人的生活方式也是有直接关系的。
我女儿压根没做任何训练,每天跟着我去接送哥哥两趟,顺便在公园里玩会,吃跟睡就自然形成规律了。
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楼主能简单介绍下吗?那个帖子太长,不知道重点在哪?
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核心理念是建立孩子的安全感。方法是放下抱起法加嘘拍法,而不是save our sleep里让孩子一直哭。当然大前提是孩子已经形成了吃玩睡的模式。
具体操作的时候有很多细节要注意,这就是那个长帖子说的东西。举例来说:
有的妈妈说我用这个方法离开房间后孩子就哭,来回要弄好多次,一两个小时。原因是当孩子完全calm down之后,很多妈妈就离开了,但实际上还需要继续嘘拍7-10分钟
还有比方说使用这个方法要至少坚持一个星期,这之间不能有间隔,不管晚上睡觉还是白天的每次小睡都要坚持,即使有一天没有这样做,那么所有之前的努力就归零了。
这个长帖子本身就是很多妈妈使用这些方法时遇到的各种各样的问题,然后baby whisperer的作者出来一一解答的,所以可操作性很强,推荐如果使用这些方法时遇到问题时来看看。
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总结得很好啊! 其实save our sleep也不是说让小孩直接哭死的,只不过很多家长的哭点很低,作者才建议说你受不了就关门走人吧。两本书其实理念都差不多
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从MM帖子里学到很多东西呢。
嗯,我就是哭点低的那种。所以总郁闷宝宝抗议哭咋就能哭得这么凄惨呢。
按照save our sleep坚持了两天,因为宝宝本身就已经有猫睡问题,每天要哭的时候太多,实在听不下去,只能放弃。
不过除了入睡方式,save our sleep的别的理念是跟这个baby whisperer差不多的,非常好,一直在用。
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啥是抱起法和拍嘘法?什么时候关门走人?
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过奖了 其实宝宝入睡不需要哭的,诀窍就是掌握他累到一放下一两分钟就睡着那个程度。这个度,每个宝宝都不同,不同年龄估计也会变化,妈妈得仔细观察,找到了这个点,就点到即止,悄然入睡了。如果你有看baby whisper那本书,里面提到宝宝感到困的三个阶段,我觉得这个点就是第二阶段。这不,刚才娃很烦躁,非要爸爸抱着,我看见他悄悄打了几次呵欠,直觉他想睡了。把他放进床,包他,他还在闹抱,不理会,一包好,关了灯,转个身,哦,他已经呼呼大觉了。
猫睡其实不难解决。一,保证他一天睡够了,二,还猫睡就延长清醒时间,三,检查是不是不够被子或者太热
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i am a baby whisperer follower too! I have used the website you posted a lot and found the people on that forum very helpful. I used Tracy Hogg's (baby whisperer writer) shush pat method to teach my daughter to sleep when she was 6 weeks old (she's now 4.5 years old). For the first 6 weeks of her life, we had to bounce her to sleep everytime. I then decided to use the baby whisperer method and had great success - it basically only took 2 days for her to get rid of the bad habbit of bouncing to sleep. From the 3rd day onwards, we only needed to pat her for 5 minutes everytime to get her asleep. Soon after (I forgot exactly when) she did not even need any patting to fall asleep. I just put her in her cot and she would be sound asleep. The best thing is, she slept so well that we never had any problem when she was teething, sick and when we were travelling and she had to sleep in an unfamiliar travel cot.
I highly recommend the book and their website too! Good job for posting it here, LZ!
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tracy hogg 实用程序育儿法
宝宝学会resettle技能还是要越早越好,代价比较小,嘘拍或者之前一个妈妈提到的5s就能起效
宝宝大了些,抱起放下实在折磨人,白天接觉哭一次一个钟头最后还不睡
这个方法最终是会有效的,但是投入也不小,说是不哭,实践后还是一身大汗啊
话说猫三天狗三天,宝宝自己也就长大了,仍旧在努力寻找尽量不让宝宝哭,不睡猫觉的办法。。。
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简单来说,嘘拍法就是一边拍宝宝,一边嘴里发出shh...的声音。
放下抱起法就是宝宝哭得激烈的时候抱起来嘘拍,情绪平静下来之后放下拍。如果放下后再哭得厉害,就再抱起来,平静后放回去。
我平常直接用iphone里的白噪音软件代替的嘘。但是感觉宝宝情绪激动的时候用嘴嘘更有效,反正时间短也不累。
一般是等宝宝躺下完全平静呼吸平缓规律后继续嘘拍7-10分钟关门走人,这时候宝宝可能睡着也可能没睡着。
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果然是高手啊,相信如果我在宝宝开始猫睡之前就开始这么训练的话宝宝就不需要哭了。
现在我家宝宝已经猫睡成了习惯,所以跨越这个障碍对她来说就变成了个很难的事情。猫睡之后的resettle对她来说远远比之前入睡时settle要难。
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猫睡不会形成习惯的。猫睡是因为宝宝不够累就去睡觉导致的,也有可能是他不够饱或者睡着后觉得太冷太热醒来。只要你找到原因,如果是不够累就适当延长清醒时间再让他睡就可以了。我一般是这样的,如果这次他猫睡了,我就不让他再睡了,直到下一次该睡觉的时候才让睡,他醒了那么久就不会猫睡了。
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完全同意,宝宝学会resettle技能还是越早越好。
像我家的之前更偏重亲密育儿,大家都说睡眠训练孩子哭,所以一直是打酱油随便训训建立下规律作息,结果9周开始猫睡后,白天哭得那个多,一合计,哭得恐怕比人家睡眠训练还多,不划算,所以严格开始训练了。坚持了两天,因为孩子已经猫睡了,等于人家一天睡觉四次顶多哭四次,咱家加上猫睡醒来那次哭双倍还不止,因为猫睡醒来哭得比一般入睡惨烈得多,实在听不下去啊,放弃了。直到开始用这个baby whisperer的方法,总算有个盼头了。
感觉孩子resettle的技能也是慢慢培养起来的,我家宝宝现在也不是每次睡觉都能睡够一个半到两个小时,但是现在她多数睡眠中小醒的时候,都能自己重新入睡。有时候是睁下眼,有时候是做个哭脸,然后就睡着了。即使是哭闹,基本上嘘拍一两分钟,就继续睡了。
也许是她现在也不算太大,所以基本上放下抱起用得不多,基本上每次最多抱起来一次,抱不超过一分钟就安静了,放下之后如果再哭得厉害只要加快拍她的频率就好了,而且我用白噪音代替的嘘,所以还算轻松。
另外她以前抱起来安静得没这么快的,也许是现在安全感更强一些吧。
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嗯,我之前也是用的这个方法,每次如果宝宝猫睡了,就让她一直醒着,直到下个睡眠时间,但是她下次还是猫睡,然后我就再让她醒到下个睡眠时间,这么坚持了几天,说真的,真是精疲力竭,让一个非常困的宝宝坚持醒着真不是件容易的事情,而且对我家宝宝的效果就是下次入睡特别快,床上一放就睡着了,但是人家还是猫睡。把我郁闷的。
也怀疑是不是饿了冷了热了的问题,但是猫睡后要是我抱着她睡着再放下,她还能继续睡,而且她一直都是规律feed吃到自己不想吃的,真感觉不大像是这些问题。总之就是头疼。
难道是我坚持的时间太短?要再多几天?
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我家白天也是睡猫觉 30分钟一醒 超级准时 醒了以后就很难睡回去 明明很困但是又不愿意自己睡 非要过去抱着晃晃 运气好了然后再放进Cot里面睡 运气不好 就直接醒到下一个饭点每天都是如此 晚上第一觉睡得还不错 但是刚开始睡也很麻烦 也是30分钟后醒,然后要一直拍啊嘘阿,然后10分钟醒一次,过了一个小时 才真正开始睡 其实她会Resettle的 但是不知道为什么白天猫觉这么多
还有个问题啊 说等Baby Calm后继续嘘拍10分钟,一般我家Calm后2分钟就能睡着,还要继续嘘拍吗?如果继续嘘拍后进入深睡眠 那么30分钟一个Sleeping Cycle后醒了 发现没有在嘘拍 又哭闹怎么办呢?
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你这样说我就明白了,不是猫睡,是宝宝还没学会自我安抚,所以一个睡眠循环结束了就没办法自己进入下一个循环。可是你宝宝晚上是可以睡整觉的吧?如果是这样,mm应该好好想想白天和晚上睡觉有什么地方是不同的,这个不同就是关键了
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thanks for sharing your story:)
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真没感觉到有啥不同。不过白天房间是亮些的,不象晚上那么黑。不过我家宝宝现在也不是睡整夜,晚上还要吃,她每次都能吃很多我觉得是真饿所以就没管这个。但是宝宝晚上再怎么起来,再怎么清醒,只要喂完了床上一放就能自己入睡。
我之前看到save our sleep上说,宝宝8周或者体重6kg的时候会在白天开始猫睡,体重8kg的时候会在晚上开始猫睡,所以也许是宝宝还没到晚上有睡眠问题的时候?
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请问晚上宝宝起来要虚拍多久才给奶安抚她回去睡觉呢?我晚上一般没啥精力,就没怎么虚拍,只是奶她让她睡觉。。
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小白想彻底明确一个问题,到底什么是猫睡啊?我家宝宝最近睡觉有进步,就是知道了COT是睡觉的地方,放进去经过几分钟到十几分钟可以自行入睡(有时小哭着入睡有时可以不哭),曾经有两天每觉睡的时间还算OK,能连续有个一小时,但这两天突然变成睡个半小时左右就醒来,多数情况会哭,有时还哭得挺厉害,但不理她过一会儿能自己再睡回去。请问这种就叫猫睡么?如果不是因为没饱或者冷热问题,那就是因为还不够困是么?入睡哭时和猫睡完醒来哭时要用嘘拍法增加安全感么?
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我家宝宝白天也都是猫睡,正为此烦恼着。
猫睡哭着醒来,因为婆婆在,听不得哭,我都是很快进去了。一看到我吧,马上就笑眯眯的,嘘拍过几次没用,我就让她清醒了,但因为怕她overtired,清醒时间到了就再让她睡,然后又是猫睡。
全母乳喂养,也不知道是不是没吃饱呀。
顺便请教:
三个月大的宝宝白天每三小时喂一次,晚上随她自己,醒来就给吃,一般是每四到五小时一次。
例如:
10点吃,假设上一轮是九点半醒的,清醒两小时的话,11点半应该睡了,可是才睡30分钟,也就是12点醒来。
13点吃,吃半个多小时,那么这次基本吃完就马上到点该睡了,这样就形成恶行循环了。
那我应该延长清醒时间呢,还是喂得再频繁点,醒来就喂?
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我们也类似这样做 很有效
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一般来说,
猫睡30mins - almost always OT, but can be UT if wake times are far too short for age (mood at wake will tell you which it is)
45 mins - UT
anything around 1hr - 1hr 15 mins - UT (this changes as baby gets older though and moves to one nap... then it's easy, anything under 2 hrs is OT).
OT: 过劳,放晚了
UT: 放上床早了
入睡和猫睡醒来如果只是fuss不用管,cry的话baby whisperer的观点是一定要介入,增加安全感,建立和孩子的信任关系。
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If you do set naps, you do just that, you set a nap time for AM and PM and stick like glue to it... you can offer 15 mins early or 15 mins late, but that's the only flexibility there is... bedtime has a 30 min window to move around a bit... so, if bubs has a short nap in the AM, the A time to get to that second set nap time (even using the full 15 mins extra bit) can lead to killer OT.. which could mean a short PM nap as well and then further OT up to BT (since that is set too!) The idea is that baby's body clock will regulate to the times sleep is offered... but, it can go horribly wrong too!
猫睡的baby使用固定时间表可能go horribly wrong。
我目前是还是用固定时间表,但是猫睡醒来了会想办法让她睡回去,一直睡到该feed的时间。
如果你家baby没法睡回去的话,最好只是用吃玩睡循环就好了,慢慢宝宝就形成自己规律了。
让宝宝睡回去的方法:
Going in at the 35 min mark and waiting for the jolt. The beginning of the rise from deep sleep happens at about the 38 minute mark, so if you are there at the 35 you will catch it. Prepare to spend 20-45 mins in the room the first few times you do this. I started it today and it is already working. Get comfy, perhaps on a stool or standing by the crib and gently place your hands on your babys upper arms while she is swaddled. You are basically providing some pressure so that when/if she jolts, your pressure will prevent a startle awakening. If baby opens her eyes, use one hand to hold her arms and the other to shield her eyes with your hand. If the room is really dark you may be able to avoid the eye-part. Otherwise, maintain this position until baby falls back into deep sleep again. You will notice her breathing quicken when she comes out of sleep and she may grunt, life her legs and roll her head side to side. If you use a paci, you can insert it, but don't do so before she opens her mouth for it. Shoving a paci in there when not requested can actually wake her up more. Follow her cues for paci or out. You may put it in and she will close her eyes, rest and spit it out (keep holding her arms) and then suddenly seem like she needs it again - put it back and continue being careful not to let her come out of sleep due to jolts or wanting that paci - it can feel like a juggling act
The first time it may take her 20-30 mins to fall back into a deep sleep, but if you continue this for all naps, you will see that the time it takes her to fall back shortens and this means you will spend less and less time at the cribside.
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