澳洲Anger at school toilet trial

在澳大利亚小学教育




学校试验‘新规矩’, 谁上课中间要去厕所,全班一起去。 目的减少小朋友去厕所次数, 能使教学更少干扰。

结果, 小朋友尿裤子了, 不喝水了。。家长怒了


PARENTS are alarmed that children at a primary school in Melbourne's east began wetting themselves after the school tested an approach that discouraged them from going to the toilet in class time.

In the Kew Primary School trial, which parents said was conducted without their knowledge, the entire class would go to the toilet if one child needed to go during a lesson.

One mother, who asked not to be named, said she first became aware of the trial when her child wet herself at the front door. ''I said, 'What happened? She said, 'I'm holding on, I didn't want the whole class to have to come with me to the toilet.' At first when she told me the rule I disbelieved her.''


Another mother took her high-achieving child to the doctor after she wet herself twice at home.

''She hasn't done this since she was three,'' the mother said. ''There was a kind of ripple effect where parents slowly became aware of changes in their children. Children were complaining of headaches, they were constipated, they weren't drinking water and were coming home with full drink bottles.''

A group of parents wrote to Kew Primary principal Kim Dray, expressing their concern about the trial and citing medical research about the impact of constipation on children.

In an email, obtained by The Age, Dr Dray said the ''whole class'' method of toilet break supervision was ''used successfully by some other schools'' and was being tested by some classes.

''Team leaders met at the end of last week to discuss the trialled approaches, and although you may find this surprising, some commented on a decrease in disruption to class lessons, especially in senior and specialist classes,'' she wrote.

The email said an ''unexpected and welcome consequence'' of the trials, had been a decrease in the ''long term and persistent problem of deliberate toilet vandalism''.

''Can I also relay something I cannot write in the publicly available newsletter: that this is the first week since I arrived at Kew Primary School that the assistant principal, teachers and I have not had to deal with … graffiti, toilets blocked with clothing, food or toilet paper rolls or faeces smeared on the walls or floor … as well as on door handles or used to write graffiti.''

Dr Dray wrote that she hoped this would ''signal the arrival of a new level of respect for the toilets in the school''.

Some parents became so concerned they wrote letters of complaint to Education Minister Martin Dixon and Education Department regional director Michael De'Ath.

They did not receive a response but last week were told by the school that it had decided to adopt an option where children went to the toilet in threes.

One parent said that while she was relieved the policy had changed, her child still said he only wanted to go to the toilet at home. ''It's such a psychological barrier; I don't know how long it takes for these things to be undone,'' she said. ''They are not acknowledging they have made a massive mistake that has terrorised our children.''

Child psychologist Louise Porter said the whole-class toilet trial was one of the most ludicrous things she had heard.

''I'm horrified by the lack of trust of children and the intrusion into their personal body functions,'' Dr Porter said. ''It's completely predictable it would lead to children refusing to go to the toilet and it would be disruptive to have 25 children wandering around the school.''

Dr Dray told The Age Kew Primary was a caring school and she would never implement a policy that distressed students. ''It's our priority … to ensure that students are supervised at all times as we exercise our duty of care,'' she said.

''As a result of a few students leaving the toilets in an untidy manner, staff decided to review the way students were supervised while visiting the toilet during class. We trialled three options with different classes over two weeks. One of those involved … a whole-of-class break for stretching as well as an opportunity for children to go to the toilet.''

Dr Dray said she had checked with teachers and was not aware of any child in the whole-class trial who was ''caught short or distressed''.

''Parents were kept informed during and after the trialling of various new arrangements in our newsletter, and feedback from staff, parents and students was fully considered.''



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SHOCK!!!不敢置信!太不人道了吧!

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每个小孩都去上厕所,厕所也没位置,大家一起浪费时间啊。这个学校校长脑子怎么长的。

toilet vandalism一般都是极个别一两个问题儿童做的,把他们找出来分别教育就行了。要全班一起陪着监督“受罚”,太不可思议。

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想起了中国的学校,我们从小到大不就是这样的么?只有课间铃声一响,大家才能去上厕所。

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怒了,什么逻辑

管天管地,怎能管到小盆友*^$%$#?

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不是有句古话说;“屎急尿胀,官司也得放。”

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话说, 我记得我们上小学的时候,也不是说能随便上厕所的。 一节课 40分钟, 课间10分钟。

这里一直都是很自由的。 低年级小朋友,如果kindy, 4-5岁的,太严格了也不好。 其实到了高年级, 10岁什么的, 自己就懂了

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不知道我女儿学校是不是有这个规定,她每天都尿裤子回来。

上学一开始我还特别跟老师关照,提醒我女儿上厕所。

[ 本帖最后由 人民 于 2011-8-12 12:25 编辑 ]

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但这里一节课不止40分钟,对于低年级学生,中间不让上厕所是困难了点,高年级就没问题了

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其实我认为哈, 低年纪老师可以提醒小朋友上课开始前去上厕所, 训练他们对自己负责。 其实不是40分钟的问题, 是低年纪孩子下课时间都整天挂着玩, 不吃东西,不上厕所。

但是学校强制规定显然back fire了。

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应该只是在猫本小范围的几个学校做了试点, 悉尼应该没有

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是在是不人道。

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是这样的,休息的时候,小朋友是舍不得把时间浪费在吃东西上厕所上面的,我在小学里做Volunteer时,就经常看到上课铃声响了,小朋友不是进教室,而是都往厕所奔

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对小小朋友强行规定是不人道的。 应该以教育,引导加训练为主。

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我们家老大经常说不够时间吃东西, 但是据我了解, 她太贪玩了

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大部分孩子都来得及的,不过我家兔宝刚上学时,有一阵的确来不及吃完午饭,那要怪我,我看他每次都把午饭吃干净,第二天就多放一点,他又吃干净了,我就又多放一点。有一天回家他都哭了,说,妈妈每天给他装那么多吃的,人家小朋友都在玩,就只有他一个人一直在那里吃啊吃啊,好不容易吃完了,离上课时间也不远了。他太老实,而且吃东西又慢,我说过不许浪费,他就真的全吃下去了。 后来我关照他,吃不完的就剩在饭盒里,不要扔掉,妈妈看见你剩的,就知道第二天该给你带多少午饭了。小朋友这才有时间玩
不过午饭真的很浪费,我每次都能看到有小孩一冲到操场上,直接就把三明治水果往垃圾桶里扔的,所以家长要多关照几句哦。我家兔宝后来都跟别的小孩学,来不及吃就扔。不过,我只要问一句,今天水果吃完了吗?他就老老实实全招了

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我们家的到现在都不好好吃午饭。 我软的硬的都试了。

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我们家的经常为了玩不吃午饭。不过他倒不敢扔,全老老实实带回来,等着我凶他。

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澳洲小学一节课多长时间?

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澳洲小学低年级没有一节一节课的概念吧?

印象中, 早上到中午之间就一个recess,吃点东西,喝点水,上厕所什么。 所谓上课,也就是一群小朋友围着老师一坐,唱唱歌,读读书,或者在桌子上写字,画画,做游戏什么的。 没有上下课概念。想上厕所,自己举手,be excused

欢迎小学生的妈妈们纠正。

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我们家小东西是在学校抓紧时间玩那种,然后下午放学回家跟恶狗似的疯狂找东西吃然后猛上厕所。

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我们一年级,上午基本是英文,讲新闻,有时少部分时间有数学,中间有morning tea,午餐,recess什么的。下午每天不一样,基本上是主题学习(周一,每个term有不同的主题学习,上个term是mini beast,这个term是有关澳大利亚的东西),其余几天下午是德语,体育,音乐,美术每天两门安排的。

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明年我们要登陆, 女儿过了5岁 , 也不知道即使上课可以去, 她会不会害怕而不敢去. 女儿胆子比较小的, 不过在这里她和幼儿园老师处得很好. 哎, 希望她到时候能很快适应啊

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小泡的未来就这样

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是姐姐的学校?

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我家孩子的水壶老是满满的, 不怎么喝。

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我们家k班的水瓶的水基本不动,所有的水果、干果吃光,只剩wrap等‘正餐’一点不动(或者动一点),放学后饿鬼一样,我说把午餐盒里的东西消灭了再说,一般他能全吃掉,还不耽误晚餐。在学校确实看到午餐时专有一个垃圾筒放满了三明治、水果等,这里应该象以前国内一样搞搞‘粒粒皆辛苦’的教育:)。

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孩子不喝水吃甜的东西牙齿会不会坏, 我家也是水果, 果汁, Yakult, 担心!

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有的孩子半小时去一次厕所,;老师真得很烦!

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喜欢频繁上厕所应该是习惯没养好,我儿子以前也这样,可能是因为我们怕他尿裤子老是提醒他上厕所,弄得他有一点尿就排,晚上也是尿好几次,四岁后跟他强调不要一点点的尿,慢慢就好了。
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