新西兰VW终于要放弃DSG 了,太好了。
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本人声明一点,发这个帖子纯属个人的感想,并不希望发生口水战。
看到国内新闻说,大众高尔夫放弃DSG改用日本爱信6AT,TSI DSG传奇成为全球笑柄。2012款 VW GOLF将放弃DSG离合 ,采用爱信的6AT(不知道国外的golf会不会),突然有些感想,想发表一下,供大家参考,声明一下,我是日本车的车主。其实无论选择德国车还是日本车,每个人都有自己的衡量标准,
套用郭德刚的一段台词是,世界上有两种人第一种人喜欢德国车,第二种人喜欢日本车,这无可厚非,但是,第一种人认为自己比第二种人高雅,这就不对啦,(经常听到有人用那种语气说,阿,我从来不考虑日本车)。
很多人都指责日本车怎么怎么的 ,说丰田车的后悬架是双连杆,就跟两根铁筷子一样,说实话在全球范围内,没见过几个车坏过铁筷子的。
真心觉得VW的宣传太坑爹了,就是一普普通通的车,干嘛阿,弄得好像比法拉利车高科技还多。
其实大众最牛的不是造车而是公关宣传和忽悠,什么激光焊接、空腔注腊,还有说什么PQ35/46后悬挂的粗壮下摆臂结实,却不知道途锐和Q7的后悬挂和雅8一样都是5根筷子,去看看同级别的LANDCRUISER 或者LX570 。这些人连个后悬挂结构类型都不懂就出来骗人,整天只提PQ35/46是多连杆后悬挂,却不知道这个多连杆只有4根连杆,而新款的ACCORD V6都是五连杆,所以大众只敢说是多连杆的,就连那个破铸铁发动机都被说成是优点,拿出来忽悠。
大众放弃DSG了,以后再买车,我也多了一份选择拉!真的挺好的
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你要知道,大部分买车的人对于车的构造都不太懂,更别提什么发动机了,不可能每个消费者都能细致入微的了解车的一切,他们买的就是品牌,买的是心里的优越感,买的是身份和地位的象征,你要说大众能“忽悠”,那他们忽悠的好,忽悠的对,市场上就是谁卖的车多谁就牛,谁的品牌认知度高谁就厉害。哪怕你的产品就是五十铃破三轮,你花大力气在广告和宣传上,打造出和宝马一样的品牌价值和定位,也是可以的,是完全没有错的。
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DSG啊。。。。。。。。莫非大众看了我的帖子?????哈哈哈哈!~~~~~
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买德国车=高人一等?
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此贴会火,坐等口水战。。。。。。
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好多VW的车国外是DSG(6SP OR 7PD)国内都是用的普通自拨 这不算什么新闻吧
DSG有它的好处当然也有坏处 双离合绝对是大趋势 BMW AUDI VW BENZ FORD 就连棒子车都出双离合了
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国内的VW 基本也都是DSG迈腾,速腾,帕萨特,高尔夫,好像只有极个别的什么捷达,桑塔纳没有用
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国内DSG不要太多,好不好~!
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rumour only.
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DSG 是新技术,特点是换挡快~~~好车都用双离合+拨片,好玩不失驾驶乐趣~
不买大众,我妈一看见大众就说,这不出租车的牌子么?哈哈哈
还有买辉腾的,大家都说这不就一大号帕萨特么??
前几天我在加油站加油看到一辉腾,第一感觉,这帕萨特真大。真好,可还是帕萨特~~~~~~~~~~~哈哈哈
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TSI +DSG传奇沦为笑柄,大众高尔夫在中国宣布放弃故障量上万的DSG变速箱,改用日本爱信的6AT。此外DSG在美大量召回引发消费者信任危机,2012款美版帕萨特淘汰了TSI发动机,提供2.5L5自然吸气和3.6V6两种发动机供选择,变速箱标配5MT,可选6MT/6AT/6DSG三种变速箱
不过我也觉得完全放弃DSG不可能,但是VW确实已经开始妥协了,对于变速箱更多的选择,也很好啊,DSG 6MT 7AT
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dsg不好嗎 一直以為 是vw的賣點 不懂 做等高手解答
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其实真的没什么好与不好,丰田4AT那个变速箱,好吗?DSG就不好吗?有一利就有一弊,不过像我这种普通人既不会选老的掉渣的4AT 也不会选动不动就挂不上档的DSG 所以我选择了6AT
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还是开手拨省事
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百公里14个油的大个帕萨特........曾经听人这么评价过
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手拨好,顶一个
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同顶手波。。。省油有力抗艹,还可以有效治疗开车打瞌睡。
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德国车就是故意设计成这样
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以下有关DSG的评论摘自The Dog and Lemon Guide:
DSG (also called the S-Tronic) transmissions are the pits. They’re essentially a racing system that has been adapted to suburban use. That’s a bit like playing football using the rules for baseball. DSG transmissions were supposed to offer the convenience of an automatic with the performance of a manual. Alas, reality has a nasty habit of spoiling the fun.
Leaving aside the frequent reliability issues (and the staggering repair costs), DSG transmissions are often horrible to live with on a daily basis. For example, take a typical motoring situation: you’re in a slow moving line of traffic, waiting to get into a carpark. Whereas a conventional automatic is happy to smoothly creep along, adjusting itself to your chosen speed, the DSG operates in a series of small jerks. This is bad enough when you’re moving slowly, worse when you’re coming to a halt and worse still when you’re trying to park in a tight space. Instead of easing the car into the available space, the DSG hesitates then jumps, just enough to get you into trouble.
Even away from the crowded cities, the DSG frequently loses the plot. Part of the attraction of these gearboxes is extremely quick gearchanges, selectable using flappy paddles mounted behind the steering wheel. In order to change gear quickly, these gearboxes essentially guess which gear the driver is going to need next, and have it ready to change when he or she blips the flappy paddle. This system works fine on a racetrack, but in the real world, you can be halfway through a casual overtaking procedure when a truck suddenly looms into view, heading straight towards you. You floor the accelerator to get away from this threat and … and….and...the gearbox has to stop and think, then select a low gear and surge forward. Eventually.
The problem with any selectable system is that it can’t possibly predict all the shifts you’re going to need, so it changes gear for you with a ‘mother knows best’ hamfistedness that often destroys the driving experience, which, after all, is the primary reason you’d want a gearbox that changes gear very quickly. The whole system is daft in the extreme.
This is not merely our opinion: Volkswagen in America was recently forced to recall all 2007-2009 Volkswagens and Audis fitted with DSG. The models covered were the Volkswagen R32, Jetta, Jetta SportWagen (UK Golf estate), GTi, Eos, as well as Audi A3 and TT. VW America was also forced to extend the warranty on these transmissions to ten years to allay reliability concerns. This was an American recall and was not extended to many other countries. Nor was the warranty.
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AT不是换挡速度慢吗?而且传动效率低 。 如果不选双离合的话,还是选手波的好。越来越觉得AT是给女人开的车了 哈哈
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vw在国内忽悠人十几年了,santana的传奇
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你......懂車嗎?
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你完全不懂日本爱信6AT的好处
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顶21, DSG=大傻瓜,哈哈。
国产santana是经典,神车。没有之一
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你懂就说呗~
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可靠、耐操、顺滑、适合日常用车和堵车状况
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跑piha快不快
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你要跑piha和赛道快当然是DSG。但是大部分人买车不是要买track day car
你会把track day car开去上班、买菜或者去飞机场接带住很多行李的亲戚朋友吗?
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多余3根就是多连杆了