新西兰plaster外墙,3家share driveway,买?
在新西兰
最近那麼多人談plaster啊。。。
我是過來人,可以這樣説,價錢worth the hassle的話就行了
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预算紧不如买个别的区稍微好点的房子。。以后修房子更要花钱。。到时候岂不是要花的更多
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三家share drive way没啥问题。出手把~
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谨慎抉择吧。。。
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不太懂房子,也是学习过程中但是有中介告诉我,plaster的房子还是能不碰就不碰吧。。。
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没那么可怕
就看你是自住还是投资了
华人不买这个因为即使买一套也非常希望高的投资回报率
洋人同事谈这个问题没那么严重,他们主要选周围邻居的环境,选景色(比如静街,比如高有水景和山景),至于材质在其次。而我们华人第一选一定是要升值
另外这种房子主要在于维护而不是一定漏水,洋人不怕这种房子因为洋人从小上房修车样样精通,我们华人就不行,所以不敢碰这种房子。
其实你要是自主,找BUILDER看好了就没问题,但以后要学些房屋的基本维护,做好维护就好,因为即使这种材质漏水,它不是某一天一下房顶就出个大洞往里灌水,而是小的渗漏进入屋顶和侧墙,所以你每隔一阵子要上去检查,发现问题也没事,找到根源解决就好了。往往大的损失在于,我们华人从不检查屋子不做维护(所以我们最喜欢砖瓦结构的房子),房子就慢慢渗漏,最后整个窗户墙体都被水侵蚀了,这个就要投入很多钱了。只要你发现问题早,解决根源,根本不会花费太多。
既然你都看到这个地步了,说明这个房子也有你喜欢的地方,检查没问题可以拿下的。
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宁愿继续租房
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同意,看到过一些专业人士之前的帖子中也写到,要注意维护和检查,不能当漏大了才去修补,而且任何材质的房子如果不维护都有漏水隐患的,哪怕是砖瓦房。
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过来人劝你一句不要买,如果开始漏水就更不要碰,我家老大生出来的时候就有鼻炎,我还很奇怪为什么,因为家里人都很健康,后来回想才意识到,因为怀孕到生出来2个月都是住在漏水房里的,虽然感觉不到有什么异样,但是墙体内发霉,霉菌飘散在房子里是根本看不到的,对小孩的影响尤其明显,怀老二的时候已经换了房子,我家老二就特别健康,什么病都没有。
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隔壁的帖子 楼主看了么
http://China2au/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3052623&mobile=yes
自己不了解不会保养的话 可能真是个坑
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看价格…什么房子都有一个合适的价格…
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我不明白三家share driveway有什么问题啊。。。。。
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中介的话能信? 他们的目的就是早点卖出去早点拿钱 知道plaster有人会墨迹 所以不愿意带你去看这类的房子
还是问builder没有confilict of interest
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哈哈,有人说过,Plaster房子只分二种~现在漏的或将来漏的。其实这个年代plaster的致命点是内部骨架未进行防腐处理,任何维护哪怕換外墙都是治标不治本的。如诚意想买就按地价出价吧。
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What's wrong with these older monolithic claddings?
Water gets past the outer surface and cannot escape fast enough, so the framing starts rotting. It really is that simple.
Nowadays the mantra "All houses leak" is widely repeated and believed - but not so between 1994 and 2002. In that era it was equally widely believed that houses could be built so they didn't leak - or at least, any leaks would be so small and short lived no problems would develop. This has turned out to be untrue. The problem is generally with all the gaps and holes in the outer skin - wherever there is a window or a door, for instance. Water sneaks in at the junction between the cladding and the window or door and it cannot escape or dry out quickly so it soaks into the framing. Not just here - water may soak up from the ground outside, or run in from the edge of the roof....the list of possible entry points is virtually endless.
The 4 Ds
A good way to understand the changes the residential construction industry has gone through since about 2001 is via the 4 Ds. This also helps to understand what is wrong with so many of the houses built during that 1994 - 2002 period:
Deflection
If the roof sticks out, it will protect the walls and reduce the amount of water hitting them. No eaves puts a greater demand on the cladding.
Drainage (the cavity concept)
If the cladding - whatever it is - is stood out, away from the framing then any water getting past has an easy route to run away - like brick clad buildings have always had.
Drying
Good air circulation means any wet building material can dry out again quickly. This is achieved by ensuring there are small gaps along the bottom of the cavity - generally this is all that is needed. Additional gaps along the top are sometimes seen (especially with brick).
Durability
If all the materials - especially the framing timber - is durable enough, it doesn't matter if a little bit of water does reach it every now and again, this wont be enough to allow rot to start.
So when you look at a typical monolithic clad house from that period 1994 - 2002, it is easy now to see how frequently none of these four concepts got a look in - no wide protecting roofs, so more strain on the wall claddings. No drainage because the cladding was directly fixed to the framing. Likewise, very limited air circulation in there to dry things out. Finally, kiln dried untreated timber which can rot frighteningly fast.
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那长话短说,您觉得LZ所说的99年的Plaster怎么样?
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现在这个市场状态,哪儿有什么价格看着特别好的plaster,趁着这个好行情脱手,怎么会贱卖!
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plaster 你都不介意了,居然是介意share driveway。。。。?
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这个坛子上,凡是share driveway,plaster,crosslease,低于3分的学校等等都是房子的原罪,绝对该被批判
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plaster,低于3分的学校
难道不是问题么……
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远离plaster
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可以貸款嗎?
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我也觉得
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leasehold + plaster+ share drive way + no school zone --- a classic one .
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你在說我的鄰居、哈哈