在新西兰
一个自建防波堤正在北岸的海滩上建造，以阻止海岸侵蚀，保护两处物业。业主正在Belmont建造这堵51米长的弧形防波堤，防波堤位于Devonport 和Takapuna之间毗邻的两处房产的悬崖之下。
这工程可不小，得花多少钱？海平面每年上涨不说，这东西建好后每年还得维护，不是做完就万事大吉了人与天争，下场可想而知...
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羡慕有钱人…
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在奥克兰北岸，一户人家正尝试修建一道私人防波堤来阻止海水在沿岸的侵蚀，保护两套价值$1350万的物业。物业价值都1350万了，还是值得去花钱保护的吧？
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问题是屋主拿来自住OK，买来出租，分割，或者长期持有，为了capital，就不值得了
海边的房子限制太多，只要和council有关联的行为都很贵
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也没什么的。
有钱人的任性，他们的世界你不懂~
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这种悬崖边的房子，一般是自住房为主吧？为了欣赏海景和风景。因为这类房子往往价格很高，租金也没太大优势，租售比很一般。租房的人应该也不会为了这风景花太多钱，贵也就是贵在了风景上面，还有海边房子建造的时候council要求很多，建造成本高。
补充内容 (2024-1-25 09:44):
而且花钱保护房子，也是保护自己的安全，大概率是自住的房子。
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只是讨论一下值得不值得，一般舍得花钱这么搞的，肯定是自住
如果是投资投机，就亏惨了
同理，看一个人有钱还是没钱，
就看 她/他怎么给自己孩子花钱，
不要看 他/她怎么给配偶和自己花钱
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哇，我好奇：有施工许可吗？有环境评估吗？
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/busin ... VJGZJO2CPH7QMKWZ6U/
付费阅读项目。你的好奇心，只能请付费的好心人给解锁了。
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哈哈，谢谢!
我记得，在新西兰做这样的工程，一是要政府许可，二是要环境许可，缺一不可。并且，环境许可的要求很高。
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何止是海邊 是任何和水有關的都諸多限制 包括小溪小河 包括地下水
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这种房子也就适合现在的屋主自住持有一辈子，就算他修好了，也没人敢买，水土流失，海平面上涨，每年的维护，人傻钱多的估计都不敢下手，这买来不得天天提心吊胆
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兩個許可其實就是Resource Consent 都是同一樣的東西 而RC下則要做環境評估
雖然RC 下面也有不同類的 這應該需要RC下的 coastal consent / permit
只是 這種工程其實有點public work的性質了 我奇怪為什麼屋主不叫Council做 （或者至少資助一部分）而要自己埋單
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萝卜白菜各有所爱，只能说我们不是这房子的潜在购买者。不代表其他人不喜欢这类房子。这就见仁见智了。
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是不是可以要求council承担一部分？我们的仓库就在河边有些水土流失的风险，如果我们做retaining wall据工程师说可以申请council承担最少一半的费用。
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之前有个悬崖边的房子，一半的地滑坡掉海里了，council不管，屋主要修只能自己把掉海里的地捞上来，汗颜...
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大的石头一车一车的往海里填。
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"...只能自己把掉海里的地捞上来..." 可怜
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勿慌勿惊勿担心，我来解锁！
A new privately-funded seawall is being built at a North Shore beach to try to stop coastal erosion and protect land at two $13.5 million homes.
Allen and Barbara Peters are at Belmont, beneath two properties they own at adjoining sites between Devonport and Takapuna.
The Peters’ waterfront properties are on Seacliffe Ave and they applied to Auckland Council to build the 3.3m high and 8m wide wall at the bottom of the cliff where there was a collapse in the 1970s.
Their aim is to try to stabilise the land and prevent further erosion.
Construction of the new privately-funded sea wall at Belmont is progressing. This is rising beneath two homes on Seacliffe Ave. Photo / Carson BluckStaff from Auckland Stonemasons have been using trucks to take the run from their lay-down yard at Narrow Neck Beach carpark to the site beneath the cliffs.
The business has had a limited time to get materials to the site, only able to drive the course during extremely low tides this month and next month.
They are carting concrete, rocks and other materials to the site.
Independent hearing commissioners Peter Reaburn, Rebecca Skidmore and Nicki Williams decided in December 2022 to allow the scheme, supported by 12 parties, opposed by nine with one party neutral.
Ruth Ell of Environment Takapuna opposed the wall. Erosion was happening along the coastline, she told the commissioners, and landowners needed to accept that. She was concerned that the wall would encroach on public land for what, in her opinion, was for the applicants’ benefit only.Auckland Council staff told the commissioners that erosion processes were natural and should be allowed to continue. They were unaware of any public complaints about the talus, safety or any request to remove the debris. That was a reference to metal from the old Westfield freezing works, taken to the site to try to stabilise the cliffs years ago.
How the seawall at Belmont is proposed to look once work is finished. For scale, images of people appear. The fence around the top of the wall is also shown. Photo / Auckland Council
The commissioners’ decision of December 12, 2022, said the talus was now about 20m wide, runs about 10m from the toe of the cliff and is about 5m high.
The commissioners visited the site and said the man-made elements of the talus were unsightly and had adverse effects on amenity and natural and coastal character.
The scale of construction of the new seawall at Belmont is clearly shown here. Photo / Carson BluckThe rock masonry seawall will have an inbuilt staircase along the coastal margin within the boundaries of their properties and adjoining them.
Allen Peters told the commissioners that he and Barbara had lived at their Seacliffe Ave property since buying it in 2007 and they bought the neighbouring place in 2015.
A previous owner of their Seacliffe Ave home tried to build a substantial retaining wall of steel and concrete beams and columns from the Westfield freezing works, which was demolished last century.
The material was stacked at the top of the cliff at a neighbouring place in an attempt to stabilise the land.
Around 1972, a storm caused a big slip. The seaward lawns of both those Seacliffe Ave properties collapsed onto the foreshore below. A significant portion of the steel beams and concrete went with them.评论
A new privately-funded seawall is being built at a North Shore beach to try to stop coastal erosion and protect land at two $13.5 million homes.
Allen and Barbara Peters are having the 51m-long curved wall built at Belmont, beneath two properties they own at adjoining sites between Devonport and Takapuna.
The Peters’ waterfront properties are on Seacliffe Ave and they applied to Auckland Council to build the 3.3m high and 8m wide wall at the bottom of the cliff where there was a collapse in the 1970s.
Their aim is to try to stabilise the land and prevent further erosion.
Construction of the new privately-funded sea wall at Belmont is progressing. This is rising beneath two homes on Seacliffe Ave. Photo / Carson Bluck
Construction of the new privately-funded sea wall at Belmont is progressing. This is rising beneath two homes on Seacliffe Ave. Photo / Carson Bluck
Staff from Auckland Stonemasons have been using trucks to take the run from their lay-down yard at Narrow Neck Beach carpark to the site beneath the cliffs.
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The business has had a limited time to get materials to the site, only able to drive the course during extremely low tides this month and next month.
They are carting concrete, rocks and other materials to the site.
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Independent hearing commissioners Peter Reaburn, Rebecca Skidmore and Nicki Williams decided in December 2022 to allow the scheme, supported by 12 parties, opposed by nine with one party neutral.
Ruth Ell of Environment Takapuna opposed the wall. Erosion was happening along the coastline, she told the commissioners, and landowners needed to accept that. She was concerned that the wall would encroach on public land for what, in her opinion, was for the applicants’ benefit only.
Auckland Council staff told the commissioners that erosion processes were natural and should be allowed to continue. They were unaware of any public complaints about the talus, safety or any request to remove the debris. That was a reference to metal from the old Westfield freezing works, taken to the site to try to stabilise the cliffs years ago.
How the seawall at Belmont is proposed to look once work is finished. For scale, images of people appear. The fence around the top of the wall is also shown. Photo / Auckland Council
How the seawall at Belmont is proposed to look once work is finished. For scale, images of people appear. The fence around the top of the wall is also shown. Photo / Auckland Council
The commissioners’ decision of December 12, 2022, said the talus was now about 20m wide, runs about 10m from the toe of the cliff and is about 5m high.
The commissioners visited the site and said the man-made elements of the talus were unsightly and had adverse effects on amenity and natural and coastal character.
The scale of construction of the new seawall at Belmont is clearly shown here. Photo / Carson Bluck
The scale of construction of the new seawall at Belmont is clearly shown here. Photo / Carson Bluck
The rock masonry seawall will have an inbuilt staircase along the coastal margin within the boundaries of their properties and adjoining them.
Allen Peters told the commissioners that he and Barbara had lived at their Seacliffe Ave property since buying it in 2007 and they bought the neighbouring place in 2015.
A previous owner of their Seacliffe Ave home tried to build a substantial retaining wall of steel and concrete beams and columns from the Westfield freezing works, which was demolished last century.
The material was stacked at the top of the cliff at a neighbouring place in an attempt to stabilise the land.
Around 1972, a storm caused a big slip. The seaward lawns of both those Seacliffe Ave properties collapsed onto the foreshore below. A significant portion of the steel beams and concrete went with them.
Plans for the seawall at the time the application to build it were heard. Photo / Auckland Council
Plans for the seawall at the time the application to build it were heard. Photo / Auckland Council
Over the years, the Peters had witnessed the steel beams, concrete slabs and steel cables at the bottom of the cliff being increasingly strewn out across the foreshore as tidal forces hit those materials, Allen Peters told the commissioners.
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Overall, Ngāti Manuhiri supported the application in principle, the commissioners’ report said.
“We find that while proposed seawall will be an obviously man-made structure, contrasting with the cliffs behind, that adverse effect will not be substantial or visually dominating,” the commissioners decided.
Work is continuing over the summer to complete the job.
Anne Gibson has been the Herald’s property editor for 23 years, has won many awards, written books and covered property extensively here and overseas.
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今天加分给楼上的了，明天再给你加分。看到全文了。谢谢。
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还以为是那边屋主上来咨询的。。操心太多了这点钱对于那边的old money不是啥问题。。。
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看图片，还是施工2次了。第一次围的比较小，不放心，又二次施工，扩大了范围。
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谢谢专家！
专家就是专家，几句话就把事情讲解的很清楚。赞！
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他这个私人修的最多能抵抗什么量级的洪水海啸？看上去也就目前先暂时固定个沙子
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感觉在大自然面前这就是个小小的对抗风暴的蚁穴工程啊
要是失效人就方了，毕竟花了这么多钱
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Consent 應該有相關的coastal hazard assessment 來計算和決定相關設計規模 當然準不準確沒人知
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这够死心眼的。要是我就把房子卖了换个地方住算了。