新西兰别整天自淫自乐了,看看主流社会的意见吧


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18 hours ago
stuart munro

The rules should never have changed to allow foreign ownership. No benefit to NZ at all - massive housing inflation sucking wealth out through mortgages - no representative government could support it for a moment.


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20 hours ago
Just Some Advice

Every little bit helps for FHBs. Allowing overseas buyers access to our property market makes zero sense anyway, regardless of how much of an effect they have had.


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20 hours ago
MacGyver +

Why shouldn't they be blamed for the housing crisis? We didn't HAVE a crisis until they started buying up all the houses!

Show me the crisis in 1970. Didn't have one.
Show me the crisis in 1980. Wasn't one.
Show me the crisis in 1990. Not here.
When did it all start? When the government opened the doors and allowed them to start flooding in and buying up properties left, right and centre.



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20 hours ago
Benjamin 2986

the guys above and 400 others own 800 million dollars worth of housing in new Zealand i wonder where they all came from


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20 hours ago
YouAreWrong

There's a certain unsaid theme that applies to all of those interviewed for this article...



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20 hours ago
Duke Aubergine

At current immigration rates we need about 96 new 2 bedroom houses PER DAY to keep up with immigration only.



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22 hours ago
Benjamin 2986

Instead, Li said the housing crisis was partly because "Auckland doesn't have enough density in the first place", and because a considerable amount of Kiwis were moving back to Auckland from overseas are you sure they are kiwis moving back to Auckland  kiwis we all no for a fact that huge numbers off people year after year immigrants made the housing shortage its right there go and have a good walk around Auckland city and other parts of new Zealand  and see the numbers 35000 people a year after year people need to lean that just because you come here get a visa your not counted as a kiwi because this is not your birth country then when someone like me a kiwi born here gos to buy a house in my birth country i will end up paying 300000 more dollars because i have to compete  will all the other non kiwis trying to buy a home in my birth country its so unfair and in new Zealand  we should not need   density housing this is new Zealand not china


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22 hours ago
man of few words

I thought foreign buyers were being stopped from purchasing existing houses here? Only allowed to buy sections...please update me.



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21 hours ago
pacifica

Not applicable yet, and it is extremely easy to get around with company, visa and trust setups.



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21 hours ago
Benjamin 2986

they cant buy existing housing but all this kiwi build thing is not means tested so they can buy them and all new build housing the people in the paper you see are huge investors they have about 800 million dollars off housing in this country and i bet not one of them was born in new Zealand just show how silly this country is becoming  


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22 hours ago
Benjamin 2986

why are people from over seas buying housing here why dont they buy homes in there own country i no its a over packed mess if over seas buyers want to buy housing in new Zealand you come and rent here for 5 years and live then you can buy a home not buy heaps of housing and go back to china or where ever and the thing that gets me the most is can i buy homes in there country to own fair is fair why do they get the beast deal and we just sit back and miss out its this government has something to do with it i dont care about trading this and that this is owl country new Zealand to be a new Zealander you have to be born here the housing shortage is from people investors from over seas and its from huge numbers off immigration and if its not whats it from there wheres the real paper work to show me the numbers i bet heaps of land and homes and owned from non born kiwis new Zealanders i think ban it all together if you dont live here you dont buy thats fair   


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22 hours ago
TeHammer

What percentage of our current housing stock, and land, is owned by overseas investors? Maybe the market has slowed as properties become less available or affordable...


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22 hours ago
GCSB-Spies

"Peter Young, a 20-year-old real estate agent at Barfoot and Thompson...."  Must be a stressful job, it has aged him prematurely.

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21 hours ago
mw289913

It says he has worked at Barfoot & Thompson for 20 years, not that he is 20 years old.

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21 hours ago
JohnBarron

Maybe beneath the photo, but Not in the first sentence it doesn’t!


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23 hours ago
8RURU8

Good.


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23 hours ago
Kiwisareace

But even if it falls 99% there are still too many. Why should Kiwis miss out to overseas buyers when we cannot buy in China?


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23 hours ago
Gissie

Of course these numbers don’t count money channeled through the short term students. The trusts we can not find out who owns. The companies we cannot check who is the actual owner.

But then of course we believe a real estate agent...



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24 hours ago
Gissie

What a joke. When the Labour Party counted foreign sounding names the real estate industry screamed there was no problem. When the rules changed in 2015 at the insistence of the PRC the same voices claimed the market would crash without foreign buyers. Now they want to stop them the same voices claim they make no difference so just leave it.

I guess the story is the real estate industry continually show us why we all find them untrustworthy.



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1 day ago
Jase51

Overseas buying fell 18mths ago when the banks stopped offering finance to non residents. Its really that simple, the problem had gone by the time Labour won the election and we will never know how big a problem it was and no we don't need any new laws


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1 day ago
Stephen Wallace

I’m so sick of all the people say I can’t afford a home of my own.
I’m a single guy in his 50s now and have work all my life to purchase my own home which I have.
I know people who tell me I’m lucky to have my home but luck has very little to do with it.
Go with out holiday and work over time and save hard and you will get their too like I did.
Young people don’t know how to save or give up nights out or shopping each day or walk to work instead of driving.
New Zealanders need to get of their bums and stop blaming others for their poor decisions and how they spend their money.


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23 hours ago
Lord Hindsight

And how long ago did you buy a house?

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22 hours ago
TeHammer

Back when they cost two pebbles, and 4 rocks, by the sound of it!


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21 hours ago
Nic Johnson

2016 on the last visit from the people’s republic.


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21 hours ago
Nic Johnson

‘I’m so sick of all the people sayING THAT I can’t afford a home of my own.
I’m a single guy in his 50s now and have workED all my life to purchase my own home which I NOW have.

Just been teaching my English as a foreign language class and thought I would amend your diction.. Adjustments in capitals..


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21 hours ago
Kiwidna

PETtee


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20 hours ago
Nic Johnson

Kiwidna.. just highlighting the foreign buyer issue...


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1 day ago
lain_nz

all 3 per cent of it , wake up

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23 hours ago
Rasco

If you take that as gospel but there is a whole 20% not properly accounted for, where much more will be hidden


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1 day ago
Steve3667

So the 97% of NZ buyers in no way had anything to with rising property values. . Not only property values got inflated .  .   So were the real stats .


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1 day ago
megadarth

The people to be pointing the finger of blame at are the real estate agents themselves. They’re the ones who have been talking up the market for years, it’s pretty shameless really. The main stream media are just as complicit, they’ve been stoking the fires as well, why, because real estate companies spend a crap-load advertising in their publications.

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1 day ago
jaks thoughts

Your right there when we were looking at houses the difference between a 25 year old house and a new build was about 50k .
Some times the new build was cheaper.
Ok with a older house you might get 100 square meters more land.
The real estate agents didn’t like it when I said they need to drop 100k of the price.



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20 hours ago
MacGyver +

They're also the ones that have special websites touting NZ properties and houses to china ONLY. Actually targetting chinese buyers. This should be an act of treason and those responsible charged accordingly. It's underhanded and only serves one purpose - to fill the pockets of the real estate agents.



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18 hours ago
stuart munro

Natural really - no-one buys the Herald for the journalism. Bet real estate is their largest advertiser by far.


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1 day ago
yobwoc

So this tells me that it's the Banks and always is the Banks that  create the loose environment so people can borrow money so easily to re-invest into income earning property. What about raising the interest rates to a happy median level so that both investor and borrower can survive or is that too hard an ask and beyond the ability of tertiary educated people to see? What we have had for a long while now s cheap money. Start paying rates so people don't feel the need to HAVE to invest in property to get a reasonable return and you will see more stability in the market. The Reserve Bank  - does it have the power and is this their department?

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24 hours ago
Gissie

I think you will find the real estate industry is trying to divert the mess away from them to the banks. The banks may have an input but no foreign investor can get a loan at all as overseas income cannot be counted. Just agents trying to show they care about something apart from the new car and boat.


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1 day ago
Turbo555

Because there is nothing left to buy.


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1 day ago
Agriiview

Good news.


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1 day ago
RobbieWgtn

There's no NZ benefit for the level of overseas investment in residential housing to be more than zero. Anything more only inflates prices for locals, thats why most of the other countries buying here don't permit it themselves.

No sympathy for the property ticket clippers, they couldn't care less about NZ, it's all for their own pockets


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24 hours ago
Jase51

never thought about a house on the Gold coast? because if you had that why shld Oz offer any of us the right to buy a house there if we have such laws here

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20 hours ago
RobbieWgtn

NZ/Labour  has already excepted Oz from foreign buyer rules as reciprocal arrangement


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21 hours ago
Wingman

Wrong!

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20 hours ago
RobbieWgtn

Well, that's much clearer now, thanks


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1 day ago
Icehouse

I personally feel something had to happen as the current climate is not sustainable, property investors are also the landlords and they are very poor landlords. They do not do maintenance and charge exorbitant rents, someone who lives overseas and owns several properties has no emotional connection to the property or the tenants.

In New Zealand we deserve better, we live in the most beautiful country in the world. People should be able to buy a house in their own country, renters should only pay a percentage of their income on rent allowing them to spend time with their families going to shows, movies, overseas trips etc not tied to a substandard property owned by a faceless offshore investor.

People should live in a house with a reasonable rent and it should be properly maintained. I deal with clients living in houses where the stove hasn't worked for two months, damp, mouldy houses where maintenance is not carried out and it is not isolated cases, I see it more regularly.

The foreign investors are not doing a good job of managing the private sector. Substandard houses might be acceptable in their third world country but not in a first world affluent country like New Zealand. Something needs to change and fast.




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1 day ago
Peter Johnson

What a load of self serving BS from Real Estate Speculators and their associated industry - time to put a total STOP to Non New Zealand Citizens owning ANY property in New Zealand.  So called offshore "Investment" is not an "investment" for New Zealander's.   

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1 day ago
daveyarmstrong

What astounds me is why the current government has not already done this.People need to put pressure on them to ban foreign investment as from tomorrow.



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21 hours ago
Wingman

Read the FACTS...


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1 day ago
Fungoolie

John Key's investor mates. Done nothing but created speculation in our housing sector and then cashed in. Canada, Australia, UK all have suffered the same MO.


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1 day ago
Texas11

it was only 3% anyway
and 1.5% are aussies that were buying from overseas.just more spin from winstons elite .
once construction drys up everything else follows.



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1 day ago
Rasco

Oh so we have an admission that foreign buyers, clearly mostly Chinese DID skew the market and now they have been called back by tightening of capital flight from China, we should no longer worry about them. Yeah right!!They have left this country with unsustainably high house prices and resulting fall in prices will hurt many who have purchased recently for the first time.
They still need barring so that this cannot be repeated.
Scales are slowly falling from the eyes of those who refused to see this was happening, the way back down could be messy.
I hope the leeches featured in this article learn a good lesson from it, and maybe go do something productive.



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1 day ago
daveyarmstrong

These are just the same lies that were propagated 3 years ago by the John Key government.Get rid of foreign investors out of our housing market, and if they are as inconsequential as claimed no one will notice a thing.
But of course anyone with the slightest bit of gumption knows that in any market with an inflexible supply like property, a small % increase in demand will result in a massive increase in prices especially when that demand is loaded with laundered money that must be gone by tomorrow no matter the cost.



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1 day ago
samuel

"Real estate agent". "Property coach". "Consultancy company".

None of these people are making things, growing things, exporting things, or doing anything except clip the ticket on the money-go-round. If they all went on strike tomorrow it wouldn't matter a damn.


Thank goodness the rort is slowing down, even if not yet over.



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1 day ago
Nic Johnson

And the report that they refer to in the article as ‘the latest’ is data that stops 15 months ago. Too many vested interests with voices that are not benefitting New Zealanders.

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22 hours ago
Nic Johnson

I forgot to ask earlier - ‘overseas housebuyers fall’.

Where did they fall? If they’re not tourists, do we really want to pick them up?



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1 day ago
ijorgeb

What a surprise!!


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3位华人房地产从业人士上媒体 谈谈海外买家作者: RyRy   日期:2018-06-14 16:27 阅读:356  来源:天维网编译  


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【天维网 新西兰微财经 据Stuff】新西兰主流媒体连续采访了3个华人房地产从业人士,听一下他们说了什么。

Stuff昨天的报道:外国投资者“不应该为住房危机受指责”:原文链接

第一个出镜的是Peter Young,Barfoot and Thompson公司一位资深华人中介,他说,海外买家几年前一次可以买十套房,现在这种情况没了。

“我们遇到的中国买家,比如那些来新西兰买房再出租的,和三年前相比大概少了一半。

“最重要的一个因素,还是现在在新西兰贷款变得难多了。”

Young说,他遇到的大部分中国买家在新西兰购房都是商业目的,或者因为他们的孩子是留学生。

目前的背景是,“禁止海外买家购房法”已经通过了一读,很快会对一读文本有所修改并进入立法最终程序。

第二个出镜的是Gary Lin,奥克兰房产投资界的“投资教练”。

Gary Lin在接受采访时说,中国限制外汇流出的政策,也“毫无疑问”影响到了他们在奥克兰购房的能力。

他也提到更严的贷款规定、收入要求都阻碍了外国买家,“由于资本转移难了,银行出借难了,IRD的合规要求多了,明线政策的效果,海外投资办公室的要求,我想海外买家对新西兰的兴趣也在减少,之前很高是因为这些限制都没有。”

他说,新西兰当然仍然是国际投资者追逐的一个目的地,因为这里环境好,而且投资和其他发达国家比“相对来说还是容易的”。

最后出镜的是Frank Li,他是奥克兰房产开发及顾问公司Luxury Infinity新投集团的CEO,他认为,海外买家对新西兰房地产市场的影响被“严重夸张”了。

他说,奥克兰住房危机的出现,部分原因是从一开始规划就是按照低密度人口进行的城市规划,遇到人口增长的今天(包含从国外返乡的Kiwi),这种城市规划的问题就出来了。

他说,房地产市场当然不必要过热,但现今奥克兰的房地产开发应该受到鼓励。

“一个健康的房地产行业可以为社会带来很多工作机会,以及为政府带来税务收入。”他还认为真正有需求的海外投资人可以刺激本地开发商将更多资源投入到市场,这对新西兰的发展是有利的。

对于那些担心外国人带来房地产负面影响的人,房产投资教练Gary Lin鼓励人民自学金融和投资知识,“将未来掌握在自己手中”。





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不要激动啦,这几只小猫能代表主流社会吗?哈哈

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我没有在上面留言。我果然是非主流人员

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Xenophobia - that's all I see.

They don't realise globalisation has most working class in the western world out of pocket. This is the real reason. Now they are blaming foreigners and the governments, left or right-wing, for not taking steps. They have no idea what they really want.

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作壁上观,谁厉害帮谁,哈哈哈。。。。。。。。。

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一群无病呻吟的穷白确实是主流,LZ你果然混得不错, 都几乎主流了

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嗤!主流社会的意见?

就凭讲话最多、错字连篇、没有英文文法的那个Benjamin 2986………?

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抱怨的人看不到周围买了很多投资房的 kiwi,只看到街头越来越多的亚洲面孔和英文关于海外买家的报道,于是就推出这样的结论-----》见到更多街头亚洲面孔+听到越来越多海外买家报道------》越来越相信这个结论,越愤怒。

忙着愤怒就没空努力赚钱了呀。而且他们应该检讨一下自己为什么混到本地人朋友圈糟糕到都买房困难。这都几轮上涨了。要抱怨也是15年后来的新移民抱怨。

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我感觉一般爱留言的还是叼丝多......

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我是很不习惯某媒体得意洋洋得宣称华人拍卖场上又干掉几个kiwi的。
这种血拼到最后的,还能是便宜货么?
还不是便宜了房东,最后华人背锅。


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哦 这又是另一个话题了

我觉得新西兰没有华文“媒体”,只有营销公司

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等翻译。。。

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主流社会的标准是什么啊?
主流社会和上流社会有什么区别?


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主流就是人数多的人群。


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主流社会,哈哈真是大玩笑啊

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网友就是主流社会?

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在NZ,中低收入群体和福利人群占总人口的多数,但他们肯定不是主流社会。
在国内,农村群体是社会人口的多数,也肯定不是主流社会。

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我们尽快占领道德制高点。

伟大的美国,人类的灯塔,它有限制国外人在美国本土投资,买房,做生意吗?开放,自由和包容成就了伟大的灯塔国,
自私,狭隘,推卸责任成就了可怜边缘化的岛国,(新西兰已经与西方传统阵营,不管是经济联系还是意识形态渐行渐远),以后成了姥姥不疼,舅舅不爱的尴尬境地。。

岛国的心胸狭隘的岛民心态和大陆的包括海纳百川的大国心态那是完全不一样的。

你们也别因为在岛上呆太久了,潜移默化的变成了岛民心态。。。

这才是根本原因。。。

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也不能这么说, 新西兰, 澳洲这两个岛国都是大幅度接纳外来移民的, 从这点上讲, 两个国家的主流社会还是包容宽宏的, 楼主上面载的这些留言并不能代表主流。


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不就是喷子么?算主流???哈哈哈

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的确都是喷子。。。非主流。
另外何为MAINSTREAM。。。主流不是个人也不是群体,而是所谓主流三观,价值观,世界观, 人生观。。。
所谓KIWIS的三观。体现KIWIS的精神。。虽然这精神我个人认为也够呛。。。。。好歹聊胜于无啊。。。


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我为楼主的ID和头像点赞

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美国准备限制中国在2025领域投资和留学了。

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They are the majority of losers. They don't understand how the world works.

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对,是主流losers,不代表主流社会。。。哈哈

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你不怕被封号?  

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为啥会被封号?

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你违规了,不能说那些是losers,要有平等观念。
其实,那些人都是待富者,只不过他们自己不努力罢了。

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新西兰这些东西太高大上,草民的我看不懂 评论 砖家说了 崩盘又要开始了,坐稳了 定存什么的,锁在最高点,或者找剑客买基金。 妥妥活镰刀,等危机过去,全球都是优质资产。 哈哈哈哈 ...

新西兰房产

怎么知道附近房子卖出了多少钱?

新西兰怎么知道附近房子卖出了多少钱?怎么估算自己的房子在当前能卖多少钱?有什么网站可看吗? 评论 realestate.co.nz。找个中介最直接,因为房子之间差异很大,一般人不明白,你自己估 ...

新西兰房产

重磅!重磅!重磅!DTI来了

新西兰https://www.interest.co.nz/personal-finance/127974/reserve-bank-says-banks-will-have-comply-new-dti-rules-july-1-while-loan new DTI the banks will have to adhere to: 20% of new owner-occupier lending to borrowers with a DTI ratio over 6; and ...